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Yes, I know many of you insist on venerating the original style, but I really would prefer a butt that uses standard drum key screws. All the ones I’ve found so far have a different hole spacing.

Ideally I’d like either something minimalist and light (like the old style Ludwig) or an adjustable butt. Either way, with drum key screws.

Suggestions?
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Yes, I know many of you insist on venerating the original style, but I really would prefer a butt that uses standard drum key screws. All the ones I’ve found so far have a different hole spacing.

Ideally I’d like either something minimalist and light (like the old style Ludwig) or an adjustable butt. Either way, with drum key screws.

Suggestions?


Using the same holes ?
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You kinda kinda gotta get the "Atlas" butt.... which only comes in the package with the new strainer.

 

https://drumsonsale....-plate-set.html

 

I bought this set for my 2016 CM snare because it has the giant die-cast butt. Still need to put it on.

 

I still like the old P-32 on my 1960's Ludwigs.

 

-Ryan


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I replaced the butt on my Legacy Classic with the new one by Ludwig... The angle of the holes was slightly off so it did require reworking the holes to a different angle. The new butt plate works and looks great on the drum as does the new strainer!
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Yes, I know many of you insist on venerating the original style, but I really would prefer a butt that uses standard drum key screws. All the ones I’ve found so far have a different hole spacing.

Ideally I’d like either something minimalist and light (like the old style Ludwig) or an adjustable butt. Either way, with drum key screws.

Suggestions?


Using the same holes ?

 

Yes, that's the issue. There are a hundred butts with different hole spacing, but I would not like to drill extra holes in my bronze Supra.

 

I've raised the idea with Josh/Inde, but he did not seem convinced it was worth doing.


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You kinda kinda gotta get the "Atlas" butt.... which only comes in the package with the new strainer.

 

https://drumsonsale....-plate-set.html

 

I bought this set for my 2016 CM snare because it has the giant die-cast butt. Still need to put it on.

Even that one, per the site you linked, is not set up "out of the box" to install in the old-style hole placement. It has to be modified, and you have to buy different screws separately. I mean yes that will work, but geez you'd think there would be at least one ready-to-install option out there for such a historically popular and common drum.


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Yes, I know many of you insist on venerating the original style, but I really would prefer a butt that uses standard drum key screws. All the ones I’ve found so far have a different hole spacing.

Ideally I’d like either something minimalist and light (like the old style Ludwig) or an adjustable butt. Either way, with drum key screws.

Suggestions?

Using the same holes ?
Yes, that's the issue. There are a hundred butts with different hole spacing, but I would not like to drill extra holes in my bronze Supra.

I've raised the idea with Josh/Inde, but he did not seem convinced it was worth doing.
Way way back in the day I had the Modern Drum Shop tap a Ludwig butt for small Yamaha ( maybe ) drum key screws. It doesn’t look right unfortunately but works great

New Ludwig is your best bet me thinks

Edited by jaymandude, 13 August 2018 - 10:04 AM.

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You kinda kinda gotta get the "Atlas" butt.... which only comes in the package with the new strainer.

 

https://drumsonsale....-plate-set.html

 

I bought this set for my 2016 CM snare because it has the giant die-cast butt. Still need to put it on.

 

I still like the old P-32 on my 1960's Ludwigs.

 

-Ryan

 

It's available as a separate part.

Drums on Sale will tap the holes for a P-32.

 

* There are holes in the butt plate for the 2-3/16" hole spacing used on the P32 butt plate, but they are not threaded and do not include mounting screws - they can be tapped to #8-32 thread. Please contact us if you would like us to do this work for you.

 

https://drumsonsale....butt-plate.html


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Bongo, can you use the old style butt plate but simply upgrade the 2 screws to drum-key headed screws? Something like these:

 

https://www.chicagom...ASABEgLI-PD_BwE

 

 

 

Also, an idea would be drill out the holes for a drum key screw discussed here:

 

http://www.drumforum...udwig-p32-butt/


Edited by JazzDrumGuy, 13 August 2018 - 12:09 PM.

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You kinda kinda gotta get the "Atlas" butt.... which only comes in the package with the new strainer.

 

https://drumsonsale....-plate-set.html

 

I bought this set for my 2016 CM snare because it has the giant die-cast butt. Still need to put it on.

 

I still like the old P-32 on my 1960's Ludwigs.

 

-Ryan

 

It's available as a separate part.

Drums on Sale will tap the holes for a P-32.

 

* There are holes in the butt plate for the 2-3/16" hole spacing used on the P32 butt plate, but they are not threaded and do not include mounting screws - they can be tapped to #8-32 thread. Please contact us if you would like us to do this work for you.

 

https://drumsonsale....butt-plate.html

 

 

Hey this is great, although I just looked and they are out of stock at the moment.



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Interesting! Thanks for the correction on the P-32 interswappability.

 

I've the ghastly P-33 on my snare.

 

-Ryan


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The P-35 is what you want.
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Bongomania - have you considering using one of these?
https://dominoretrop...dwig/p-32-butt/ I have these on two of my Ludwig snares - they work great.
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Bongomania - have you considering using one of these?
https://dominoretrop...dwig/p-32-butt/ I have these on two of my Ludwig snares - they work great.

OK that's a good option, thanks!


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