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JCKOriollo

JCKOriollo

Member Since 05 Aug 2011
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#1692089 Best Black Beauty-"type" Snare????

Posted by JCKOriollo on 05 July 2018 - 12:53 PM

I like the Oriollo encore. Warmer and smoother than the black beauty which can sound kind of brash at times imo.
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#1680846 Ringo Has Spilled The Beans. Paul Did Die

Posted by JCKOriollo on 27 May 2018 - 08:35 PM

I know in general conspiracy theories aren't really looked at seriously, or in general, the people that typically believe them aren't always treated very well or considered thinking rationally...but man, I have never seen such disdain and just kind of judgmental superior attitude to those in the thread suggesting there may be some truth to the theory. At the very least, this conspiracy theory is interesting and has some things that certainly cause me to raise my eyebrows and go wtheck. Believing theres no truth to any of this doesn't make you a superior human being. People should be able to disagree about things without being jerks to each other. Ok rant over. 


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#1665516 "New" Rogers recalling Dynasonic lugs

Posted by JCKOriollo on 04 April 2018 - 11:21 AM

The ghosts of Joseph Rogers and Joe Thompson are hovering over the new production facility overseas, and they are not happy...



Meh. I feel like there’s this glamorization/idealization of the made in America companies of the 60s and 70s being American made. It was a different time back then. The high quality product from oversees didn’t exist back then really. Mainly just mij most often with crap wood...so American made meant something. Now...American made doesn’t equal a better product necessarily.

These guys were in the business of making money and offering quality product. Who is to say if those resources were in place back then they wouldn’t have used them.

The current product should be judged imo by the quality of the sum of its parts just like any other drum on the market. If it’s a great product and a great replication if the original doesn’t it really matter all that much? Would it have been that much of a bigger deal if Keller had made the shells?
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#1659729 Snare Recommendations $400 budget

Posted by JCKOriollo on 16 March 2018 - 11:55 AM

Oriollo Mangana. Amazing beefy snare that would fit the bill. Can’t recommend enough
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#1634847 Oriollo Seamless Steel Drumset- Video Preview!

Posted by JCKOriollo on 06 January 2018 - 11:04 PM

Hey all! Just got this amazing kit in the mail yesterday, and while I am going to do a full blown review and demo for you guys, I wanted to share some pics and a quick clip. The kit is wonderful...I don't know how Vukan created something I like as much if not more as the aluminum kit, but this kit has beautiful warm, full, and punchy tone, while still being clean and clear.

The finish is rad...its patina under lacquer and really looks like wood. Sizes are 22X11, 16X12, and 13X6.5. The clip is recorded in my studio which is probably slightly more processed/close mic driven than I will do for the full demo...but this is how I would record them for a record. Tunings are around 110hz, 70hz on the toms...pretty standard for me but obviously I'll do higher tunings in the full demo. Im really blown away. Anyways, on to the media!

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https://youtu.be/2t-AM2sFskI
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#1632932 Yamaha PHX kit *** SOLD ***

Posted by JCKOriollo on 01 January 2018 - 03:10 PM

That’s a great deal on an amazing kit
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#1631302 The last Jedi

Posted by JCKOriollo on 27 December 2017 - 07:58 PM

As long as they keep making money, Disney will keep making them. Aside from this last installment, I've been enjoying getting a new Star Wars movie every year, but getting them that often sort of takes some of the magic out of them. Eventually they won't be special anymore if there's another one every Christmas.

I'm so bitter about it now. I think Johnson has really killed Star Wars (this trilogy at least) with the ill-concieved, almost non-existant story telling and poor choices he made in The Last Jedi. Up until he starts talking about how he would have constructed the new trilogy, this guy really nails it. He covers a lot of the objections I had with the movie, but voices them a lot better than I could.

https://youtu.be/VdLQaO552RE


I don’t agree at all with the Johnson killed the trilogy talk and all that. There’s a lot of die hard Star Wars fans (myself included) that really liked tlj. It’s all subjective.
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#1627217 Collecting: Snares vs cymbals

Posted by JCKOriollo on 13 December 2017 - 11:01 PM

I use the same set of cymbals for everything I do. I don’t ever feel like I need to change it up. They just work. On the contrary I have two kits currently and 10 snares...and I rotate them out depending on my mood and the type of sound I need. I guess I’m just not a cymbalholic. They are so expensive to get the good ones
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#1623150 Fork's Nashville Craviotto snare

Posted by JCKOriollo on 30 November 2017 - 05:45 PM

I had a similar drum spec wise but in maple and 6.5 and it had double bb edges. I've also had a cherry in double BB edges and a maple with double 45s. To my ears, the ones with the BB edges just sound way better to my ears. They are fatter...still very sensitive...and just bring the fullness. In this shootout I did awhile back, to my ears my Crav maple with BB edges was the winner. I don't think it sounds muddy at all. 

 


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#1619279 It happens with Firefox too...can't come to my favorite site anymore.

Posted by JCKOriollo on 17 November 2017 - 02:55 PM

I still can't figure out what the whining is all about---I see 2 simple options---secure your browser, or stop visiting the site. We will survive without you!


Someone posts about it every day. I’ve even seen people post on other drum forums about how you shouldn’t visit dfo because of the malware issue. Many people have said they don’t come around anymore or that they are leaving. Obviously there’s a large chunk of people that don’t feel like they should have to go to extremes or have to add a bunch of software to their phone to use the site malware free. I’m sure there’s ways the admins could solve it if they really thought it was big enough of an issue...but it seems pretty backburner...which is their choice but I think it’s likely they will continue to lose members until its fixed.
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#1618719 It happens with Firefox too...can't come to my favorite site anymore.

Posted by JCKOriollo on 15 November 2017 - 02:12 PM

No problem here either---Windows 7 with adblock---if you are having problems it is you, and not the site!


That’s a ridiculous thing to say. Dfo is the only website I’ve ever been to on my phone that consistently has these issues. It’s not me, it’s the site. I shouldn’t have to go to this extremes to browse the website.
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#1615200 when in a studio setting, drummer input on sound

Posted by JCKOriollo on 04 November 2017 - 10:48 PM

I think it’s the engineer’s job to provide your band with the sound they are wanting for this new record. I would just approach him and take the critique out of it so instead of being like “you should have compressed more, or it would have sounded bigger with this verb or whatever.”, you could just provide an example of what you are wanting it to sound like and just be like “hey we are really wanting to go for this drum sound on this record.” I think he’ll likely try to achieve it.
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#1607868 Who's currently playing a Jenkins-Martin Drumset?

Posted by JCKOriollo on 11 October 2017 - 11:08 PM

Somewhat disagree so I’ll play Devil's advocate. Two things a 24 produces right that makes it a 24? The feel and the sound, right? Typically a 24 has a lower fundamental being a larger shell and creates more of a bigger feel because it is resonating air in a larger space? (snip) I think it’s reasonable you could put certain 22s next to 24s and hear a very similar sound. I get it’s a matter of how you look at it, but if it walks like a duck...

I'm discussing this in a friendly way. It's not my intent to argue with anyone's ideas and/or preferences. So, with that precursor, I'll say the following...

Take the shell completely out of the equation. The feel and sound of each diameter are different, even where tuning ranges overlap. That's because each head size requires different tension to achieve the same pitch. When the head is smaller, the tension is lower and the sound has less sustain and a more thuddy and bass enhanced quality. When the head is larger, the tension is higher and the sound has more sustain and a thinner quality with enhanced high frequencies. And yes, I'm talking about tuning drums of different diameters to the same pitch.

This same change in tone occurs in stringed instruments, too, regardless of body size. Consider two guitars, one with shorter scale versus one with longer scale. The shorter scale guitar behaves as a smaller diameter drum does - there is less tension required, less sustain, and a more thuddy and bass enhanced sound quality. The longer scale guitar behaves as a larger diameter drum does - there is more tension required, more sustain, and a thinner sound quality with enhanced high frequencies.

There are things one can do to compensate for these physical properties, but really a 22 inch bass drum is never going to sound like a 24, regardless of how short or how long one makes the drum, and regardless of shell composition. Nor will a 20 sound like a 22, and so on.

Now is where I get to your comment "if it walks like a duck" (or perhaps I'll change this to "if it quacks like a duck"). Take two different diameter bass drums and tune them for a low, thuddy sound. Can either bass drum size work for that sound? Yes, absolutely! The pitches may not be identical and/or the sound character may not be identical, but it doesn't matter. Ditto for tuning bass drums for a more singing type of sound - multiple diameters work fine for this.
Wasn’t trying to start an argument either. I just find it very interesting topic of discussion. I get what you are saying on principle and of course take a drum made of the same thing and compare the different diameters and they’ll sound different, but I don’t think you can just say take the shell out of the equation, because I do believe there are a some 22 shells out there that do sound more like a 24 typically does for various reasons. I’ll stop detailing the thread now. Haha
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#1598860 Whatcha got coming next ?

Posted by JCKOriollo on 14 September 2017 - 07:49 PM

I've got a 15x6.5 Oriollo Mangana in blue sparkle headed my way. I'm really looking forward to getting to play this drum. It's gonna be Yuge. Haha
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#1588157 The Painted Seamless Aluminum 12,15,20 - OFFICIAL REVIEW

Posted by JCKOriollo on 11 August 2017 - 11:11 AM

I'm shopping for a new kit ,I keep coming back to these kits ,I love a raw metal finish .Hopefully by the time I'm ready 24" kicks and 18" floors are available.
I really like the black hoops on the kit in the 1st video you made ,where did you get those ?

Side note ,I think I bought some Slingerland cutaway toms from you last year .6 8 10 in blue Agate .


Oh nice! Yea those cutaway toms were awesome. Those hoops were the black nickel no flange hoops from drumfactorydirect with mini claws. I think the next size Vukan is doing is 18. Not sure on the 24
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