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#979459 Frondelli problems

Posted by jrfrond on 20 October 2013 - 05:09 PM

I was tipped-off to this thread by a DFO friend on Facebook. I am posting this reply, logging out, and not returning yet AGAIN, because quite frankly, some of you have nothing better to do that trash-talk. I am not the first victim, nor will I be the last. I might add that, as a result, DFO has lost many an active member since I first signed on in 1998 when it was the DCI forum.


First of all, what I do is NOBODY's business except for the people I am involved with. But, if it makes you feel better to trash-talk, go right ahead. I am not fazed by it. Enjoy yourselves.


Secondly, I'm STILL trying to pick up the physical, psychological, virtual, and financial pieces of getting my home wiped-out over a year ago with Hurricane Sandy. One of the FEW things that survived in my workshop was a tom shell belonging to the original poster. Sorry to say this and be so callous, but someone's project tom shell takes are very far backseat to the safety and security of my family. I have conducted ZERO drum business since last year, because I have no shop to do it in, nor do I have the equipment or tools. All gone.

This situation will be rectified when priorities ahead of it have been taken care of. That's the way it is. That's the way it shall be. I would gladly swap positions with those of you who didn't endure the devastation and tribulations of having their house and personal property destroyed by floodwaters and fire, plus living for 16 days without power, transportation, and communication.

Think I'm out of line??? Too bad. Go get a life. I'm still trying to rebuild my own.

At this point, I'm out, and terminating my DFO membership. Have fun.

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#765803 Simon Kirke's bass drum pedal

Posted by jrfrond on 18 July 2012 - 08:38 PM

Only ONE pedal looks like that: Speed King.
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#758608 To HOT To Go Outside

Posted by jrfrond on 02 July 2012 - 08:10 PM

why? as in why spend $200 in a few parts on a drum worth about $200 to have it sound the same? Sure, a fancy Trick throw will operate smoothly, but so does/should the orig p-83. If you are like me and really NEVER use the throwoff during a song then why bother with "upgrading" it? You'd be better off selling it and picing up an acro cheap off of Craigslist and replace parts on it and sell the original parts...you'd end up with the same drum and not be out 100's of bux. Just my $.02 worth.

I totally agree. Pricey, hi-tech strainers, to me, are a waste of money, and in reality, work no better than a P83. I mean really, all it does is lift the snares up and down by a fraction of an inch. Not a difficult task. :rolleyes:

See if you can find an orphaned shell and go with that if you feel the need to experiment. One of the virtues of the Acro is it's light weight. Bolting on a chunk of metal won't help it one bit.
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#756683 Lug Lube?

Posted by jrfrond on 27 June 2012 - 11:30 PM

I avoid petroleum-based lubes, which can turn to wax under pressure, in favor of synthetic Super Lube Teflon-based grease and oil.
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#756493 Robert R. Keller Sr. passes.....

Posted by jrfrond on 27 June 2012 - 03:26 PM


Whether or not you have an "issue" with Keller Shells and the custom drum business, all of us drummers owe a debt of gratitude to the man that put the company on the map, especially Rogers fanatics and ESPECIALLY us custom drum builders.

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#749972 USA made drums

Posted by jrfrond on 12 June 2012 - 02:05 PM

You can make the shells (from domestic veneers) and lugs here (most machined lugs are; diecast is all Asia). Delmar pearl wraps start life in Italy. Sparkles and satin flames are made domestically. There are NO domestic tension rods or metal hoops. All PET film (Mylar or otherwise) used for heads is made in Asia.

So there ya go. The answer is you CANNOT make a 100% USA-made drum.

In the end, it really doesn't matter because the American support people required to import drums is usually MORE than would work in any drum factory. Therefore, no one is REALLY unemployed as a result of offshore production.

In addition, if you were TRULY going to break it down to the lowest common denominators, you'd find foreign components in the alloys, adhesives, etc.
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#731671 Carler Palmer - Lucky Man

Posted by jrfrond on 30 April 2012 - 10:02 PM

I respect Carl Palmer for what he did for progressive drumming. However, I've always thought that he had poor timing and was terribly mechanical and overly technical, and "Lucky Man" is no exception, though I like the tune itself.
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#725118 Ludwig Keystone Series ... sounds like...?

Posted by jrfrond on 17 April 2012 - 10:08 PM

Perhaps my review may help: http://readperiodica...73481691.html#b
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#725115 has anyone tried the new Evans Hydraulic head?!

Posted by jrfrond on 17 April 2012 - 10:02 PM

New Hydraulics have much more "ip" and attack than their plastic-hoop predecessors. I like them. For a really treat, try the coated version, tuned tight, on a metal snare drum.
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#722684 Bop Kit Sizes - What Makes It A Bop Kit?

Posted by jrfrond on 13 April 2012 - 09:43 AM

The music you play on it.

+1. However nowadays, it's generally constituted by an 18" kick drum.

One of the reasons I believe many bop players love the 18" kick drum is that it is almost a tenor voice that complements the toms and mixes well with them, as opposed to being totally separated. After spending time with an 18" kick a year ago when I reviewed a Tama Silverstar bop kit, I can honestly say that it IS a cool voice, and almost channels you toward THAT style of playing.
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#714950 Singers singing consistantly behind the beat

Posted by jrfrond on 29 March 2012 - 09:22 AM

It could just be her style and the way she feels it. Singing is not necessarily tempo-oriented. I know that it can drive one crazy, but to me, it's one of those things you just have to deal with. The tempo ref and ClickStation is for the rhythm section.

I've learned how to tune-out other musicians in the band who might drive me batty, whether they are singers, horn players, rhythm section, etc. Occupational hazard. ;)
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#709670 High Dollar Snare Drums....

Posted by jrfrond on 19 March 2012 - 09:21 AM

You know Trey, that's a tough call. One would EXPECT a high-dollar snare drum to sound proportionately great, but who is to say what "great" is?

Some of my favorite snares that I own are low-mid $$$, and many of the uber-priced ones I've heard just don't float my boat. My idea of "great" is a snare drum that is somewhat dry and "snarey". Some players like a lot of ring, and still others love drums that go "CANK!" when struck.

Let's take a Holy Grail vintage example of the Ludwig Deluxe/Black Beauty. One of the finest-sounding brass drums ever built (in my opinion, of course). However, I would dare anyone, including myself, to hear the difference between that and a WorldMax BlackDawg with the same heads, snares and tuning. Another drum is the Pearl Sensitone Brass. Just an out-friggin'-rageously good snare drum at a stupid price. Last but not least, the venerable alloy Supra, which for me, is the benchmark for metal snare drums.

For the last two years, I've been using a Slingerland/MusicYo copper snare drum that is pretty much as perfect for me as I've ever found. These snares, made in the Peace factory, were being sold for under $100 when Gibson's MusicYo website was up hawking their second and third-tier goods. I was LUCKY to find one NOS for $180, and like I said, it's absolutely incredible.

No, you can't make a call based on $$$, with almost any instrument, especially nowadays. My son was looking for a semi-hollowbody guitar that is smaller than a Gibson ES-335, so when I went to NAMM, I tried the Gibson ES-339, which fits the bill. It was pretty nice, but also $2200 street price. I found at the Ibanez booth a guitar that is nearly identical (AM93) that is $550 street price, and in my opinion, blows away the Gibson in terms of sound, playability and workmanship, and it's made in China (yes, the SAME China that many forum members keep razzing because "all they make is crap"). Anyway, it's just another example of the fact that PERCEIVED value (determined by price) doesn't necessarily equal ACTUAL (determined by product usefulness and quality).
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#707306 Pearl Love?

Posted by jrfrond on 14 March 2012 - 02:38 PM

I do have to agree that stiff pipe-style holders suck for tom mounting, and Pearl is well-known for them. However, in their FIRST professional incarnation, they used hex arms like Rogers, who, ironically, later had their OWN pipe disaster in the form of the MemriLoc tom holder.

Forget about the holders, let's talk about drums. Pearl makes EXCELLENT drums, and their snare drums have a well-deserved reputation of their own.

I love Pearl drums, as well as Yamaha and Tama, but the thing that escapes me (and why they never have a "vintage" look) is that Asian manufacturers change their lug designs every few years or so, therefore they tend to take on a generic characteristic, whereas companies like Ludwig, Slingerland, Gretsch, Rogers and DW let the designs become their ID characteristic. You can ALWAYS tell with these brands which is which, but without any definite ID, the other ones get lost in the shuffle.

Forgetting about aesthetics, Pearl knows how to make damn good drums at ALL price points, and I would happily play a Pearl kit any day of the week.
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#706528 Going Back & Forth--USA vs. Imports

Posted by jrfrond on 12 March 2012 - 08:22 PM

Every time I go into a music store today and see nothing but wall-to-wall Pearl, Yamaha, Mapex, etc., I can't help but remember the old days when Asian stuff was considered a joke. It was for kids and amateurs. I saw the Asian companies obliterate Rogers, Slingerland, Camco, and eventually, Premier and several good European brands.

The old days are gone. It has been a sad thing to see, but it's reality.

No one twisted the arms of musicians to play imported instruments. Like the American auto industry, the music industry was a victim of it's own lack of foresight and comparatively poor workmanship, plus lack of development.

How do you feel about Asian cars?
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#706359 SlingYo Copper Snare Drums

Posted by jrfrond on 12 March 2012 - 01:57 PM

OK, it seems like Gibson sold a lot of those Slingerland import brass and copper snares when they were real cheap on MusicYo. I FINALLY found one on eBay NOS for $180 almost two years ago and SO glad I did, because it is now my #1 and has been since then. Looking for another in 5-1/2 x 14 or 7 x 13 (the OTHER two sizes I don't have) and they just NEVER seem to show up. My guess is that no one is crazy enough to let them go.

Who else here has one of these gems, specifically copper?
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