Equivalent To Charlie Watts China

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  1. messineo21

    messineo21 Well-Known Member

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    I know Charlie Watts' go to china is an 18 inch UFIP Natural Series Fast China. I'm looking for a china that sounds closest to his but I do not want to buy his exact UFIP because $350+ price tag. I just can't bring myself to pay that much for a china that I will use as a crash and could possibly crack. What other brands/models sound similar to the 18 UFIP Natural Series Fast China?

    Thanks!
     
  2. RickP

    RickP Dan RH Jr.

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    Look for one of the discontinued Paiste Dimensions thin China's. I had a 16" that sounded remarkably like Charlie's. I ended up selling it to a drummer friend that plays in a Rolling Stones Tribute band.
     
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    kluger Well-Known Member

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    I have a 14" Sabian aax mini China, everytime I hit it I think it sounds just like Charlie Watts'. Picked it up for $20.
     
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    Christian C. Well-Known Member

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    Paiste Innovations 18" Medium China
     
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    Try the UFIP Tiger Series 18" China. Nowhere near the price of the other UFIP. It's a good sound, not like "OK, I have a China now, whoop de doo" and you forget about it over by your ride or other crashes. I also think the Tiger finish is darned cool.



    Dan
     
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    The Natural Series are worth every penny.. The material is unique to his sound and actually if you hit similar to him, (which can be pretty hard at times) they are not easily broken.. But if your still not willing or able to pay that much then yes the Tiger series are decent. Try them out in person and look for a higher pitch. They become darker with little age.
     
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    Opinions on Wuhan are all over the map, but I have an 18 that sounds pretty Charlie-like.

    One of the secrets to that sound, I think, is to mount the cymbal bell-up (or right side up). You will get a lot more sustain and trashy wash that way. I'm preferring chinas more and more that way. They don't have to be set up upside-down, after all.

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