Mixing cymbal brands, series

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  1. multijd

    multijd Well-Known Member

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    Yes!! Do it! How about Paiste 602 hats with a K Constantinople ride and a Istanbul Mehmet Turk crash ride? Or Bosphhorus hats and two rides with an old K crash ride? Ludwig Standard (Paiste) hats with an Agop ride and a Turkish crash ride? A&K hats, K ride, Bosphorus crash? A ride, Paiste flat ride, k hats! They all work. Its about the sound not the name.
    Best wishes and happy riding,
    JB
     
  2. rculberson

    rculberson Well-Known Member

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    Yessir! I dig the concept and employ it myself.

    In this pic I'm playing:

    17" Paiste Trad Thin Crash over 17" Paiste DE Mk1 Crash

    20" Sabian Sound Control Ride

    22" old A Z Trans Stamp

    20" Meinl Trash Crash
     

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    Never cross the streams, bad JuJu.

    Just kidding, been doing it for decades.
     
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    TheMattJones88 Well-Known Member

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    I can mix series, but companies is a no-no for me. Just makes me feel weird.
     
  5. bob

    bob Well-Known Member

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    my cymbals are a mix of , sabian and zildjian , and i don't consider those 2 brands as mixing ....
     
  6. Santos

    Santos Well-Known Member

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    Obviously there is a strong case for having the same range of cymbals by the same manufacturer, not least consistency of timbre and tone etc.

    But there's no rules, other than whatever sounds right to your ears.

    I've had all Zildjian, all Paiste and all Sabian setups in the past, and each has been great. But now all I have are Paiste 505 hats, a Paiste 602 medium ride and a Tosco flat ride. I'm looking for a small crash cymbal and I'd love to find a nice old Paiste 602 thin 16" but really I don't mind which brand I end up with, it's whatever sounds right alongside what I've got.

    Mix it up!
     
  7. EvEnStEvEn

    EvEnStEvEn ~Lounge Lizard~

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    Personally, once I realized decades ago that my insistence on matching cymbals was nothing more than OCD, I've enjoyed a much more interesting conceptualization of sounds, accents, sonic textures and variety.

    Who introduced the notion that our cymbalsets should all be from the same matching brand or model designation? Marketing departments!

    Like many of us, I'm changing up my cymbal rig every month or even every week.

    This month it's been:

    Sabian Paragon splash 10"
    Zildjian K/Z combo hats 13"
    Sabian Vault crashes 17&19"
    UFiP rough ride 22"
    UFiP rough china 20"

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  8. MrDrums2112

    MrDrums2112 "Normal" Drummer

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    I have been focusing on my cymbal setup lately. I have a mix of Paistes - 18 & 20 Giant beats, 18 Masters Dark Crash, 21 Masters Medium Ride, 14 2002 SE hats - and Ill use those in various combos along with some Amedia cymbals I have from their Dervish line. The Amelias and Paistes are very different, but to me they sound very nice together.
     
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    Bri6366 Well-Known Member

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    When I started drumming in the late 70s, it was common even for big name drummers to mix brands. When music videos became popular, the cymbal companies turned their cymbals into advertising billboards and they have been successful in getting into our heads. I often play a Zildjian Ride with Paiste hats and crashes. It's my most mainstream ride cymbal for moderate volume stuff.
     
  10. tillerva

    tillerva Forum Guru...yeh right :p

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    Cymbals, drums, hardware, it's all mixed up.
     
  11. janeybug

    janeybug janeybug

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    my opinion too......sabian and zildjian mixing is fine........all other brands may cause fires..........
     
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    Through out my early career, I always mixed brands. Of course then, there was less options available either by brand or series within each one. Later on, as I found more economic footing and could afford it, I moved more towards individual rigs by brand.

    I still mix series within each brand together as my ear dictates (the only single series collection being my Istanbul Mehmet which are all Nostalgia's) and have absolutely no problems mixing the brands together. Though now, I have the option of just grabbing the bag that represents the sound I need for that particular date so I seldom cross breed brands. And while I admit that I prefer to use one blended brand at a time, I also recognize that is simply because I now have that option. Otherwise It would be still be a mash up!
     
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    Until I get an endorsement deal..........mix and match.
     
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    Right now my set-up is:
    14" Dream Bliss Hats
    24" Soultone Custom Brilliant RA ride (Right side)
    23" Soultone Latin crash/ride (Left side)

    That configuration gives me a wide sound palette.
     
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    I have mixed brands in the past and currently mixing Zildjian Rock Ride with Paiste 2002 crashes. Works well...however I mostly keep the same brand together. In this case it is due to sizes required.
     
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    "we" still look for a "sonic" blend no matter
    unless not looking for that..
     
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    I would hate not playing my A custom sizzle Ride without my 2oo2 sound edge hats.. Cool and sparkling with warm and shimmer.. Real sonic colours that cannot come from just one series..

    Gerry
     
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    I definitely mix up brands, depending on what the music calls for... The only constant are my Artisan Elite hats - for jazz I usually go for the K Con MTH 22 on the right, with a Artisan Light 20 on the left, sometimes throw in an old stamp K 18 as well. But to me that really isnt mixing, as I see all of these as the Zildjian family. The mixing happens on the more far out stuff that I get involved with - this is where the Meinl Byzances come in. They work really well too. I would mix any brand if it gave me the desired sound palette.
     
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    That's really interesting.. Yes if it works why not mix to get the sounds you want.

    Gerry
     
  20. RickP

    RickP Dan RH Jr.

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    I dont mix brands , I will mix different model lines from one brand in a setup (I.e Paiste 602 with Paiste Masters) , I have not always done this in the past , but now I prefer to keep whatever Cymbals set I take out to be just one Brand . Paiste with Paiste ; Sabian with Sabian .
     

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