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gotta find a possible "lowest height cradle type snare stand" for this new 10"X14" Ludwig Maple Snare Drum
been there and done it with my ludwigs and 14" luddy snare i ran across and having the same prob but being 5'4'' it was even more of an issue being a short drummer, i had ludwig hercules stands and had to separate the lower 1/2 of the snare stand with the legs, and tap loose the collar that locked the upper tube assembly to the bottom, then using a plumbers pipe cutter shorten/cut off the top of the lower tube, being care not to take to muchoff, then you wont be able to fully fold the legs *UP* the tube, and make sure you leave enuff tube so you can tap the lockening collar with the wingnut back onto the lower tube assembly and still fold the legs back up completely... tommyG
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Hey Tom Cat, thanks so much for the DIY solution, I really appreciate you sharing your own experience to the resolve of our "short guy" snare stand problem, lol.. I completely understand too as I am 5' 5" with a new 10" X 14" deep well maple snare drum. I had already thought about doing what you've had to do too, but never have modified any of my snare stands before or know exactly what's all involved with doing so, plus your suggestions of the details with the legs and to also not take too much off the cut tube pipe matters in things to be considered first before cutting, lol.. It is difficult sometimes to find a shorter needed stand and the stand I will be modifying already is the shortest I own and have ever found. I usually don't use such bigger deep well snare drums because of this problem, but I really wanna be able to have a versatile stand that allows any size snare drum need.. and I'm a lot like you are too with rather being resourceful with what I already have. Plus, hey, I won't be missing a bit of excess tube for higher raised settings that ain't never needed for me anyway 'cause all my snare drums used are always set to my shorter height comfy zone. I have other taller snare stands if needed.. My own custom modified stuff makes me appreciate and enjoy them even more too. And I've already spent enough money on endless hardware gear needed us drummers accumulate that becomes like owning our own music surplus store, lol.. So thanks again Tom Cat, you've really helped inspire me to just fashion my own custom needed stand and I'm pretty good with doing that too. :)
 
glad to be of help DWIGZ, I looked A LOT for a shorter snare stand and couldn't find what needed on top of spending 100+ buckaroos on more *endless harware* as i heard it put lol. Ive always been a DIY guy and made my share of mistakes along the way, so matbe tis post passed on usefull knowledge of watch out issue doing this project... well hoping you'll be able to work out the issues with a stand for that beautifull snare you have and I would really love a sit down on those beautiful drums.. really nice!
 
Thank you so much and I completely understand (and agree) with what you are saying (and telling me to consider when doing this modification). Yeah, the kit sounds even better than it looks and is not my only kit but is my very first love kit that I've had ever since I was 12. I grew up on and behind this kit and we've been thru a lot playing lifetimes of "Live" Venues, gigs, sessions, recordings, loads/unloads, various different set-ups, miles of travel, etc.. I actually believe we are even married with kids too, lol..

This is a '68 Rare Vintage Collector's Ludwig Super Classic MACH 6 Deluxe Blue Silk with Silver Sparkle Flames Maple drum kit that is now double bass.. I wish I had found the other twin matching bass drum I always wanted it to have lifetimes ago.. I'm still hoping to find a matching 18" X 18" Floor Tom for it too, but you're always welcome to have a sit down on them. They are a force to be reckoned with, lol.. I absolutely love Ludwig Drums because of this kit. I've done a lot of in depth research on them. They are priceless to me and never for sale. I bought them for $150 when I saw them as a kid. They are a complete mint condition different drum kit now..

Plus I'm happy to have found a new friend like you Tom Cat. We just have natural agreeable similarities. I've seen (read threads) on here of so many arrogant guys get in to it over having a difference of opinion of stick choices, lol.. (ridiculous).
Hope you have a wonderful great day, ..and go play some drums mannnnn haha! :) Stay Cool and Rock ONNN !!
 
Thank you so much and I completely understand (and agree) with what you are saying (and telling me to consider when doing this modification). Yeah, the kit sounds even better than it looks and is not my only kit but is my very first love kit that I've had ever since I was 12. I grew up on and behind this kit and we've been thru a lot playing lifetimes of "Live" Venues, gigs, sessions, recordings, loads/unloads, various different set-ups, miles of travel, etc.. I actually believe we are even married with kids too, lol..

This is a '68 Rare Vintage Collector's Ludwig Super Classic MACH 6 Deluxe Blue Silk with Silver Sparkle Flames Maple drum kit that is now double bass.. I wish I had found the other twin matching bass drum I always wanted it to have lifetimes ago.. I'm still hoping to find a matching 18" X 18" Floor Tom for it too, but you're always welcome to have a sit down on them. They are a force to be reckoned with, lol.. I absolutely love Ludwig Drums because of this kit. I've done a lot of in depth research on them. They are priceless to me and never for sale. I bought them for $150 when I saw them as a kid. They are a complete mint condition different drum kit now..

Plus I'm happy to have found a new friend like you Tom Cat. We just have natural agreeable similarities. I've seen (read threads) on here of so many arrogant guys get in to it over having a difference of opinion of stick choices, lol.. (ridiculous).
Hope you have a wonderful great day, ..and go play some drums mannnnn haha! :) Stay Cool and Rock ONNN !!
ah 68, as an 10 yr old wanna be drummer, I had a kit that that was 1 step above 1 of those sears catalog kits and i even did a logo on the reso head on my kick "Tin Soldiers" from the lyrics of CSNY tune "Ohio"... living in the denver suburbs I remember going to the mall in Thornton CO. and going over every inch of the Ludwig kits displayed and the pro beat configuration was the one on my list for years to come until in 1970 when i had beat my tin soldiers kit to pieces and was falling apart literally my parent saw drumming wasn't a passing fad so in 79 they got me a used $400 pawnshop ludwig kit 2-12" racktoms 16"fl tom and 22" kick 5"snare and zildjian cymbals 24"ride and 12" hihats
I was finally able to purchase on my own my 1st *real* set of drums Ludwigs rock power dbl kick 6 plies of hard rock maple, 14-15" rack toms 16-18" fl toms 24"kick with a special order of 2 concert toms 6-8"
anyways below is a pic of my $400 pawnshop luddies

anyways thanks for the reply DWIGZ, it's great to get up and read something positive like your post,
kinds sets the mood for the day mi amigo!
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I really enjoyed reading about your earlier first drum set dreaming days. It really did help me remember all of my own too. I'm a bit younger than you are and I was born in '68, and you said you were 10 yrs old in '68, so that means you are 10 yrs older than me. That's even better because I'm always interested in finding out about what was here and in developments as we came about before we found out about them as it all finally reached us to know about them ..and begin our dreamin' days, lol.. My memories I really wanted to share for you to venture with me in recalling all those very first beginnings too got a lot of details with all that I typed, but I am on a laptop and not on a cell phone like most people. I tried to send you back a reply on here about those, but I exceeded the 1,000 word limit, lol, and it wouldn't let me send all I had wanted to share about my "way back when" too. When I finished typing all that I tried to send to you, it froze up my computer, and took forever just to bring up the "oops, something went wrong" notification that 1,000 words were exceeded, lol.. I had to shut down, restart my computer, check, secure everything, and still wait forever again going thru all of that too, but I understand and just got a little carried away with my "hey, this is a drum forum and what we do in a drum forum is talk typing sharing our photos and experiences with other drummers", lol.. so yeah, I didn't get to send all the cool details I included to tell you all about, lol.. so sorry about that. I'm not always on internet much as often at times, but I especially really liked your memories of the Denver Suburbs and the malls, plus the "step above" kits besides the drum kits in the Sears Roebuck Catalogs we first dreamed of having when we were kids, and they are still pretty cool stuff too. I too use to always long for the desired kits in the monthly Sears Roebuck Catalogs and I too did have my own selections of "step above" kits that I'd always wanna save up my allowance for (as if I ever could). I was going into many long detailed memories to share about being like you with going to the malls here in Lexington, Ky. at such first small shops like Willis Music Company, Carl's Music Center, Don Wilson Music Company, Drum Center Of Lexington, and having my own Ludwig Drum Set fantasies from when I first saw a huge Ludwig No Limit kit that was the blonde maple three bass drum kit with the Modular hardware when it first came out in development. That Ludwig kit had a slotted deep well Coliseum snare drum and every endless deep power tom size I didn't even know existed.. I remember entering the Willis Music Store that was in the Fayette Mall at that time and there was that 75th Celebration kit all decked out and displayed that just hypnotized me in with its whispering spiraling super sonic instant wowzah look what Ludwig made tractor beam that made me feel like I was MIA from a therapy program and missed the short bus ride to it.. I soon received all the Ludwig Musser Company Catalog books with all their incredible kits that I still lust all over for. I've even been to many pro clinician seminars and they all said the same thing to us that always stays in my conscious mind.. They all said every drum company in the market is only just trying to reproduce the Ludwig sound. I've been a Ludwig man ever since and was blessed to have found the kit that I have grown up on and raised behind ever since I was 12 yrs old. I once saw Sugartooth perform in a huge sold out coliseum and their drummer used one of those slotted maple deep well snare drums and it did it's job very well and I was immensely impressed with what it does. Him or his tech engineer sure gave that drum some unconditional love and it sounded fantastic in a huge sold out coliseum that had bouncing echoing slap back ambiances everywhere, but not that snare. It may have only been just a Nano second dry in only a least little bit, but that crack, man, was beautiful.. I just wish i had gotten a dang Sugartooth shirt and to this day, still cannot ever know why I didn't go get one. I was young and distracted I guess, but I didn't even care who the other headliners were after seeing Sugartooth perform.

Well, I've gotten really busy again here with things to get done outside before winter comes, but I really did enjoy reading what you shared. I've always liked the drum sound and track recording of the CSNY Ohio song too. I liked your Tin Soldiers idea and can't help to feel that your parents realized they didn't have a wanna be drummer. They realized they had a developing drummer that needed a new kit and a $400 Pawn Shop Ludwig isn't nothing to sneer at either. Just a great sounding well made engineered drum kit is what it's all about anyway.. No, I'm not a Ludwig Rep, but yeah, I do help represent them the best I can 'cause I just love my DWIGZ, lol.. I think it would be very cool for you to write a song entitled: "Me and My $400 Pawn Shop Luddies". That would be very interesting lol. I sure bet that 24" ride cym with crisp 12" hats were a great versatile combo to groove on. :)
 

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