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    COLIN BAILEY

    Sad news indeed. Wonderful swinging UK drummer who spent several years in Australia. Evidently (and ironically) when he first joined Vince Guaraldi he was told to stop playing 4 on the bass drum "Monty Budwig handles that". And as you can hear from this, he did.
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    What cymbals you have never tried but would you like to try ?

    Bos New Orleans are really nice. Two of the bass players I play with insist that I use my 22” when we rehearse. I haven’t tried it on a gig yet but suspect it might not penetrate like my Sabian Artisan Light.
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    Why do we buy vintage drums vs modern drums?

    I’m here to say Ludwig drums from the late 50’s/early 60’s we’re often really badly made. I made the mistake, back then, of selling my beautifully made English Premiers and buying a 1961 Ludwig set simply because my hero Joe Morello played them. You could get splinters if you tried to run your...
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    >>>>>>>>Bill Stewart ! >>>>>>

    I’ve never played the cymbal hand with thumb up. I believe that most of my jazz ride cymbal hero’s like Philly Joe, Jimmy Cobb, Klook, Connie Kay, Mel Lewis, Shelley Manne etc played what was essentially the palm down grip with the thumb on the side. I don’t live in the US so I’m probably going...
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    Favorite Jazz Ride Sound on An Album

    This one. Game. Set. And match for me.
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    What is your unpopular drum opinion?

    In my experience every pot needs an occasional stir.
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    Solos: lots of notes to few notes?

    No, that’s definitely not the 1% that doesn’t bore me.
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    Looking for ultra dry bright ride ..

    Can’t really add much about local sauces except of course Craig Lauritsen who operates close by. Back sometime ago I used to buy cymbals from the states - the Australian dollar was level with US dollar and US freight charges were very reasonable. Plus US prices were always way lower than here -...
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    Paul Francis left Zildjian?

    I managed to get myself into trouble over at the old CH because I thought that the whole ‘Genuine Turkish Cymbals made in the USA’ thing was ridiculous. A bit like Genuine Swiss Watches Made in Hong Kong. Nobody agreed. Mind you I thought the whole Keropes thing with the weird coating was pretty...
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    What is your unpopular drum opinion?

    You’re missing the point. I’m not looking for history makers. All I’m suggesting is that when jazz became a university degree at hundreds, and now many hundreds of universities, it became much more interested in mass producing graduates to a certain standard and less interested in encouraging...
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    What is your unpopular drum opinion?

    Can I play the ‘exceptions to the rule’ card for a moment? Here in Australia the jazz factories (universities) are certainly turning out endless numbers of highly skilled clones who basically all sound alike. They study the same books, set up their Gretsch bop kits the same way, play trad grip...
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    What is your unpopular drum opinion?

    Now that’s the best thing to have come out of this thread. So many of today’s smart young jazz drummers can play exactly like all the other smart young drummers. The guys who learned on the stand worked it out for themselves and all sounded completely different and instantly recognisable. Now???
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    What is your unpopular drum opinion?

    I don’t either. Being a very old drummer the thing I’ve had to put up with all my life is the assumption that because I play drums I must like BR. I don’t. I mean I really don’t. Oh yes. Another thing I hate. As a general rule (there are odd exceptions) I hate listening to drum solos...
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    Light-weight Hardware

    Agree. Yamaha started again instead of taking existing stands and just making everything thinner. The Yamaha stands look bulky because of their design but they are light and still stable. Great work. The DW stands are a joke IMO. I know, I bought them off the net without seeing them ‘live’...
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    Paul Francis left Zildjian?

    Francis was probably Zildjian's last chance to remain as a respected musical instrument maker rather than just a mass manufacturer of musical hardware. Serious drummers will soon be looking elsewhere, but it won't worry the NEW Zildjian - they'll be selling heaps to the guys who break cymbals...
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    Who is still using Bosphorus on your Jazz gigs...even though you can afford anything?

    Having tried way too many cymbals I kinda settled on Bosphorus by accident. These are the cymbals the guys in the bands I play with - like the most. My hearing is crap so I’m very aware of what others say. So it’s a three rivet Hammer 22 on the left and New Orleans 22 on the right with Trad hats.
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    Trying a flat ride

    Flats: The cymbal you have when you're not having a cymbal. As I've said before there's a very good reason that more than 98% (guessing) of all cymbals in the world have bells. I suspect it's because they actually sound like cymbals.
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    MY INTRO.... Been outta the game for 20some years...

    Me too. It’s been a fun ride getting back.
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    Emmet's Place

    Glad to see some recognition of these shows, they’re invariably very entertaining and the band usually swings like mad. Poole and the cheap-ass drumset continues to prove that it’s the Indian and not the arrow. And Emmett is a master at demonstrating that playing jazz can actually be fun. Highly...
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    What are your impressions of this ride cymbal?

    Love to know how this was recorded. It has a huge influence on cymbal sound.
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