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  1. Franklin Nigel Stein

    Drum Factory Direct cymbals!

    Yep. Exactly like Harbor Freight where you could find US made Vise Grips and Stanley tools etc etc etc, right next to the Chinese made tools. If they sold you the U S made stuff, profit. If they sold you the Chinese made stuff, profit AND support of Chinese industry, just like DFD. How exactly...
  2. Franklin Nigel Stein

    Drum Factory Direct cymbals!

    Apologies if I’m blocking anyone’s sunshine.
  3. Franklin Nigel Stein

    Drum Factory Direct cymbals!

    Drum Factory Direct is the Harbor Freight business model applied to drums. Chinese drum part makers pool their “supply” to meet the “demand” in the American market. In some cases those companies will be very small concerns that exist purely to supply DFD. Focusing on the cymbals, B12 is cut...
  4. Franklin Nigel Stein

    13” vs 14” HATS, ALL OTHER THINGS BEING THE SAME

    I get it, but the most important part of my statement is "I don’t have enough talent not to mess them up". If I keep them, their holes are gonna get drilled out to 1/2 and then I'm just gonna bang away on them. They should be preserved and played by a pro for generations to come. I LOVE the...
  5. Franklin Nigel Stein

    13” vs 14” HATS, ALL OTHER THINGS BEING THE SAME

    I’m playing five cymbals from that trans stamp family tomorrow. (hats are 14s). The lightest cymbal is my 14in crash at 500g I had a pair of 13in trans hats that were about 425/460 grams but I never used them. I got an auction lot of cymbals and those weren’t my focus. Plus I make it a point...
  6. Franklin Nigel Stein

    13” vs 14” HATS, ALL OTHER THINGS BEING THE SAME

    I’m betting that if you put a decibel meter next to them the 14s would come out on top but your brain wouldn’t think so due to all the increased overtones the larger cymbals produce. I think it’s because 13s put out a narrower band of higher frequencies that it just SEEMS to be louder.
  7. Franklin Nigel Stein

    13” vs 14” HATS, ALL OTHER THINGS BEING THE SAME

    These sound like they could cover a wide range of styles. edit - my ideal 13in New Beat weights would be about 600/1000 grams. Still looking.
  8. Franklin Nigel Stein

    13” vs 14” HATS, ALL OTHER THINGS BEING THE SAME

    Totally agree with you. I’ve tried my best to love 13s, I really have. I’m even motivated by my travel light mantra. Still, I buy them/use them/sell them every time. edit - I’ve been thinking about some early 13in New Beats for years now (my 13s were always matched pairs). Sigh. That’s a good...
  9. Franklin Nigel Stein

    A Cymbal that just SHOULDN'T be this good!

    Just maybe it’s this one! As for weight, it’s only about as heavy as a nice New Beat bottom hat.
  10. Franklin Nigel Stein

    A Cymbal that just SHOULDN'T be this good!

    marching band was what I was thinking as well. Some extra information is that the edge doesn’t get as thin as you’d expect for a early 30s on-bass-drum or hanging cymbal. Alone it’s to much of a bell imho. It just excels now at a job it was never intended for.
  11. Franklin Nigel Stein

    A Cymbal that just SHOULDN'T be this good!

    I had a 16 that I sold maybe a year ago. Could not find a top to match it plus they were waaaay too expensive. edit - should also mention that I once owned a 12 and a 13, both with WWII type military stamps added. Each was about 1/4 inch oversized so it was a bit impractical to use them as hats.
  12. Franklin Nigel Stein

    A Cymbal that just SHOULDN'T be this good!

    While tempting, these are my only pair of 15s. I sort of use them on special occasions. Throw up a pic or two of your 14s. On this type of 15, I’ve seen (I think) two of the pre-war and one Trans stamp in the last 3-4 years. And I bought one of the earlies for 75 bucks. Ya just gotta watch for...
  13. Franklin Nigel Stein

    A Cymbal that just SHOULDN'T be this good!

    And this is what I did with it: I made a sort of . . . Frankenpair. The top is pretty thin at 870g and sports a mark and manufacturing clues that would place it around 1960. Sadly, I tend to travel light and so rarely use the pair even though I'd tell anyone who asks that they're the best...
  14. Franklin Nigel Stein

    A Cymbal that just SHOULDN'T be this good!

    A bit before the pandemic, one of my internet drum email guys (I'm starting a new term, I-deg) read my complaint that I couldn't find a certain kind of sound that could only be found in a marriage between old A/K Zildjian and early New Beat hi-hat cymbals. He sent me a picture and said that I...
  15. Franklin Nigel Stein

    looking for low-pitched but not too trashy 20" jazz ride

    (I wasn't gonna be the one to say it. Thank you.)
  16. Franklin Nigel Stein

    looking for low-pitched but not too trashy 20" jazz ride

    Probably be good to know what other cymbals you're going to pair with it. edit - I know this will bring gasps coming from me but . . . this just MIGHT be the time I'd say you should consider dropping a grand on an old K. Zildjian ride cymbal. (OK, breathe . . . breathe . . . breathe)
  17. Franklin Nigel Stein

    Michael Shrieve?

    On a side note from Santana - I saw Gregg Rolie with Ringo Starr and his All-Starr Band live at the Greek in Los Angeles. I went with two friends, my wife and our daughter (then 17) in 2019. Incredible show. And our daughter can tell her grandchildren that she saw a Beatle live in concert!
  18. Franklin Nigel Stein

    Looking for a second ride to alternate with

    And never one to say but not do, these are my two main ride choices - early 60s 20in at 2037g and my late 50s 18in at 1656g. (There are other great choices for a second ride besides Zildjians . . . though I’ll deny saying that if asked).
  19. Franklin Nigel Stein

    Looking for a second ride to alternate with

    Fitting in with the Zildjian motif, I just gave away a sweet late 1950s 18in inked "MEDIUM RIDE" that would have been perfect for you. It weighed about 1665g and had a fair amount of hammering which made it darker than a 1970s 20in, but not as dark as a full on jazz ride. If I were you, I'd...
  20. Franklin Nigel Stein

    Michael Shrieve?

    And the most astonishing thing about Michael Shrieve at Woodstock? That guy had just turned twenty. TWENTY!!! I couldn’t do that with twenty lifetimes, let alone twenty years.
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