I need to qualify something. I haven't gigged since 3/22/08, but they have been on the stand all that time in the practice room. I used them with a Catalina bop set for bar band gigs along with a 22" Sabian HH Jazz Ride and a 20" Sabian HH Flat Bell Ride. I always had aspirations of being aa jazzer, lol. That set would cover anything I could throw at it. The hats were just an excellent pair. They are at my other house or I would give you the weights. They are fast and not high pitched at all. They have a nice chick sound. They have a full sound, not thin or chirpy like a lot of smaller hats. They really shined on Honky Tonk Women. I had bought two different sets of 14" Sabian HH hats, I think they refer to them as Regular or Medium Hats and a set of HHX Manhattan hats that are really sweet before I got these. None of them did anything for me, then I saw these on Ebay and thought, "What the heck" and pulled the trigger on them. When I got them, it was love at first listen. I couldn't be happier with a set. I also have a set of 14" A. Zildjian Lights that I really like. I guess I'm just a Light hats guy. I think I may have just lucked out on these. Hope this gave you some insight. Take care, RockyLittle Rock, that’s a pretty long run; how would you describe the Sabian Lights, and what do you use them for?