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1970's Ludwig Black Beauty Snare (finally purchased!)

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Hi All,

Last week I took delivery of a 79/80 Ludwig BB snare. I have wanted one of these since I saw them in the flesh in the late 70's in music shops/catalogues when I was a budding 13/14 year old drummer. One day I will have one of those I promised.
Fast forward 43 years and hey-presto I finally added the BB to my 2 kits / 6 snare and 20+ Zildjian !

Do I need it ? Hell no, I collect for pleasure and play the gear at home and at xmas for a 10 night residence locally. I could buy the new B stock for a lot less and hardly notice the difference sound wise...But....I wanted the 70's re-issue and now I have
it I gaze at it like a work of art. Beauty (pleasure) is in the eye of the beholder I guess. My wife thinks I am nuts!

what is the purpose of this thread I hear you ask. tbh someone to talk to about my new snare. Mates that are musical are guitarists not drummers and they roll their eyes (as do my wife n kids).

Anyway, a quick story. After buying my BB from a specialist vintage drum place I asked if they had any background to the drum, purely out of interest.
The owner said he was selling it on behalf of a guitarist friend. The guitarist bought it from a shop in Denmark Street London (well know music shop area in LON). He purchased it early in 1981. The store owner told him that Carmine Appice drum tech had brought it into
the shop late in 1980 for a repair as he (or Carmine) had dropped the drum and it had a dent they wanted repairing. The shop repaired it but the drum tech never returned to collect it so they sold it a few months later in 1981 to the guitarist mentioned.
I checked Rod Stewarts world tours and he was in fact in London December 1980 for the "foolish behaviour" tour playing 4 nights at Wembley 1/3/5/7/ December. I like to think the story is true and no Provenance is required as I will never sell the drum.

I just thought it was a nice back story for something I will cherish for the rest of my drumming days.

the s/n is 2166407

attached is a pic with it's brothers to 400 & the Acrolite.

anyone else got some Black Beauty stories?

cheers

Ross
 

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I have the same era L-417. I always wanted the engraved variant over my standard BB, but I could not afford the few extra bucks for the engraved one at the time.
Back then, making minimum wage (~$3.25), saving for that extra $50-100 bucks seemed like a million.
Also, for some reason, without the engraving, this snare was always somehow inferior in my mind! How silly.

I did buy some Twin Channel Die Cast hoops for the drum too, which I haven't tried out yet... maybe it's time to get some new heads and put those rims and and give the drum another go-around.
 

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After 45 years of waiting, the first thing you did was use it as a drum stand? For an Acro no less....yikes!

I've never played that era black beauty. Just more modern ones and my 1920's. I would really be surprised if it's different than the modern ones. But I get the mojo, the wanting, and of course I love the Blue Olive badge so congratulations!
 

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Congrats, Ross!

Similar story to yours. Wanted a late 70’s BB ever since I was a kid lusting after them in the catalogs. I’ve owned five newer BBs, including a couple of the late 80’s/early 90’s bronze-shelled models, but knew deep down I would never be satisfied until I got the real thing.

Purchased my ‘79 from @Drumbelly here a couple of years ago and haven’t looked back. My BB is the final snare I’ll end up with when it’s time to hang it up. It does sound different from any of the other BBs I’ve owned. It’s smoother sounding and has much less ring. A very controlled sound even with zero muffling that mics love. It lives up to every bit of the hype associated with it.

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After 45 years of waiting, the first thing you did was use it as a drum stand? For an Acro no less....yikes!

I've never played that era black beauty. Just more modern ones and my 1920's. I would really be surprised if it's different than the modern ones. But I get the mojo, the wanting, and of course I love the Blue Olive badge so congratulations!
Good spot however the drums are sideways on a rack. I would never abuse the BB in that way !!!!
 


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