Oct 22, 2019 #1 ekim Very well Known Member Joined Feb 2, 2008 Messages 635 Reaction score 36 Location NW vintage Sabian crash/ride 20" cymbal 2200 grams Vintage 1980's 20" crash/ride cymbal. Works as a light ride but the crash is where it really shines. No keyhole. A couple of small flea bite but no cracks. about 2200 grams. reverb.com Very nice cymbal. Just doesnt work with my settup.