Picked this one up on trade recently. It is a beautiful sounding cymbal, but I am on a quest, and this isn't quite the sound I'm looking for. So, I want to pass it along. It weighs in at around 2100 grams. Beautiful stick sound with a cushion of wash and some nice complexity, and a crash to die for. Has 2 rivet holes. In great condition--nice patina, with some tape residue on bottom. A great all around cymbal. $275 shipped to USA, $250 plus actual shipping elsewhere. PM me if interested.