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Hi Guys,

I need a little identification help, please. I got a good deal on the drum in the photo, (under $100!) but I'm having trouble identifying it. It's a deep-dish 6.5" x 14" w/ 8- Imperial lugs and an 80's black & white label. What is it? Is it an 8-lug supra? An acro with Imperials? I'm also thinking it might be part of the cheaper Rocker series, but it looks like the same shell and lugs Ludwig uses on the supra's.

Can anybody tell me what this is?

Thanks,

John
 

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So you think it's a Frankendrum? I don't mind the steel shell, they make for nice, dry sounding snare drums, but you say this not a 'factory' drum, correct?

Thanks...

John
 

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Those student model Rocker snares aren't bad drums at all. The picture is pretty blurry so it's hard to tell if they are in fact Imperial lugs. The 6.5" Rocker lugs are smooth. One of my students picked up that exact drum with a nice Ludwig Modular snare stand for $50.
 

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nothing wrong with that deal at all john. i agree with the assessment of what it is.

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I only paid $80.00 for it. It came with a stand and carrying case w/handle and wheels, so not so bad at all. If I'm not crazy about how it sounds, I'll just move it on. Thanks for the speedy responses, very much appreciated.

Mike - I just bought a 1959 transition badge Duco jazzfest. It's the wrong colors (Blk/gold) but you know I'm going to fix that little problem right out of the starting gate. Duco paint job ahead! I have to pull out the old turn-table. I wonder if doing a snare drum will be any harder because the shell is so narrow to begin with...

I'll keep you posted. I'm psyched. I now have a 59' j-fest to complete my green/gold clubbies! Yee-ha!


John
 

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i saw your new post about it john. stoked for you!

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I think you can still buy that model new. Here's the 5x14 version:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ludwig-Rocker-Steel-Shell-Snare-Drum-/190528367030?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5c6029b6#ht_1456wt_752
 

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Ludwig makes a few models of the steel shell:

The one above ( http://cgi.ebay.com/Ludwig-Rocker-Steel-Shell-Snare-Drum-/190528367030?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5c6029b6#ht_1456wt_752 )

this one: 300 Series http://cgi.ebay.com/Ludwig-Steel-Shell-Snare-Drum-/200602716973?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb4da8b2d#ht_1503wt_752

and this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/Ludwig-Steel-Snare-Drum-/190527790526?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5c575dbe#ht_1393wt_752

Why the 300 Series one is cheaper than the first is beyond me. The 300 Series ones are very well built.
 

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Here's a good deal on a 300 5.5x14 BTW:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ludwig-LM300-5-x-14-Steel-Snare-/200605943759?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb50bc7cf#ht_500wt_949
 

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This one I have is a deep-dish version, 6.5x14. Thanks for the liinks. Even for a lowly steel shell snare, I did good on the price.

John
 

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i think everyone should have a good steel shell snare in the arsenal. i am currently without one since giving my son mine however.

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I have both the 5x14 300 and 6.5x14 302 steel shell drums. They are both great drums, especially considering I have $234 in both of them, bought brand new. The 6.5 kills---very close in sound to my Supra 402 at less than 1/3 the cost. I took it to a jam a couple of years ago and they couldn't believe how good it sounded given the cost (I paid $109 for it at WWBW in 2007 on sale while on vacation).
 

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If you sell it don't forget to include "BONHAM" in the ad so you can triple your investment! :rolleyes:
Interesting side note - I heard a couple of times that Bonzo always considered brass snare drums to be "too slow" and alumi...er, I mean Ludalloy didn't have enough "guts" (or "balls", I forget the exact wording now), so all of his snare drums did indeed feature a steel shell.



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I have both the 5x14 300 and 6.5x14 302 steel shell drums. They are both great drums, especially considering I have $234 in both of them, bought brand new. The 6.5 kills---very close in sound to my Supra 402 at less than 1/3 the cost. I took it to a jam a couple of years ago and they couldn't believe how good it sounded given the cost (I paid $109 for it at WWBW in 2007 on sale while on vacation).
Now all you need are the brass and bronze shelled versions in both depths and you'll have the entire collection!
I've played on one of the bronze shelled ones.
More resonant than your typical bronze shelled drum, but also not nearly as thick (about same thickness as steel and brass shells).
Surprisingly heavy (but then, Bronze is heavy, anyway).
I liked it. Nice dark sound with a little added resonance over the Bronze offerings in the 400 series.

I wonder if you could make a Millenium Throw-off work on one of those. Seems like it has the generic "Pearl-type" of strainer on it, from the factory.



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If you sell it don't forget to include "BONHAM" in the ad so you can triple your investment! :rolleyes:
Interesting side note - I heard a couple of times that Bonzo always considered brass snare drums to be "too slow" and alumi...er, I mean Ludalloy didn't have enough "guts" (or "balls", I forget the exact wording now), so all of his snare drums did indeed feature a steel shell.



Elvis
i thought he mainly played 402's though. they would have been ludalloy. there has been mention of some steel supras around but not many.

mike
 


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