A Few 22" Rides Comparison

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So. Ill keep this up for a few days
Piano and flute are beginners..sitting in.
Guitar player is a blues/rock player not really a jazz player.
Bass and sax older more experienced.
I really made a cymbal video here. That is why Im switch back and forth so much. Normally I wouldnt do that.
Also switching between Erskine Ride stick and Vater Jazz Ride.
I like the Vater. Gives fuller sound and spread
13" sabian manhattan hats
22" bosphorus hammer ride 2 rivets
19" agop mel lewis crash/ride
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Sounds really good, TK.

The cymbals have a very similar vibe and work well in this context.

I might opt for a left side with a bit more contrast to the main ride, but that’s just nitpicking. Thanks for posting.
 

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I can see it TK but I can't really 'get past' (ha) my dislike for the 19" agop mel lewis- not just yours every one they ever made ever. Like to hear (more) of the Bosphorus 19(?) you had for left. Three times in a row now- (u) only had the 19 Mel there (come on give some equal time ; )
 

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Ok.
I like that Mel...but I hear you...

Yeah...the bosphorus 19"
I forgot to bring it! Bummed me out
 

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Bosphorus 22 sounds good . Like a green old K Zildjian on an day off at the beach. In the sun. Totally acceptable..
 
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Ha.
Nice edit.

Its crusty and dirty in a good way.

Weird..but sounds really good with those RT Jeff Hamilton sticks.
 

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Sometimes I look past the ride I'm playing into the field of sound around me- if the ride (and all the cymbals) doesn't (don't) block me from hearing (and reacting to) - what's going on all around me and - if (the cymbals) looks (look) good and were fair priced, that's enough.
I used to (since last week) say instead of looking (when at bat) at home plate look over the fence..
 
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Sabian Legacy Heavy Ride 2976 grams

Paiste SCDR 3146 grams 2 rivets

Bosphorus Hammer Ride 2550 grams 2 rivets

Paiste Siganture Rough Ride 3062 grams

Zildjian John Riley Stick....tip is chipped and worn down a bit from tons of gigs


Of the two, I prefer the Sabian over the Paiste SC, which to my ears has an annoying "hum" underneath (personally, I have never heard a SC that didn't sound "hummy" or "clangy", but won't elaborate any further for fear of having my house tee-peed by a gang of marauding Paisteites).
 

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Yes. I am bringing the legacies.

Here is a "hotter/louder" video of the Bosphorus Hammer and the Mel Lewis 19"

I am using Regal Tip Jeff Hamilton model sticks

While I think both a good, I prefer the Mel ride. Seems to have the right wash/stick balance, and when crashed, sounds much "bigger" than it is.
 

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While I think both a good, I prefer the Mel ride. Seems to have the right wash/stick balance, and when crashed, sounds much "bigger" than it is.
Ha.
Just goes to show you.

That Mel is a dream under the stick too. Feels great
 

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Of the two, I prefer the Sabian over the Paiste SC, which to my ears has an annoying "hum" underneath (personally, I have never heard a SC that didn't sound "hummy" or "clangy", but won't elaborate any further for fear of having my house tee-peed by a gang of marauding Paisteites).
Thats okay eventhough you are totally wrong I still love you.

Just kidding.
 

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What "isn't in" Bosphorus simbols symbals cymbals allows me to do this:
there's not a lot of extraneous junk or anything that draws 'concern" or "attention" to them. So, what's not there, Free's ya up. Does me.
advice: instead of concerning about "what's there" it's really about: what isn't there.
I mean how can you argue with a reasonably priced excellently made Handcrafted Turkish cymbal made in endless variations that doesn't offend. That's like ___heaven. Freedom.
(not a lot of clashing tones "complexity" (yet they are majorly handcrafted) . Man that's a recipe for getting on to the business of playing.

It's almost the bog standard once--the industry standard- Avedis Zildjian (A) recipe but done in the (old K) handcraft way. You know, those days when drummers didn't think about (didn't have to) about cymbals (because there was a standard) (that near everyone partook in (A's)
It's the new simplicity is bliss (with a handmade organic kick) philosophy
 
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Sabian Legacy Heavy Ride 2976 grams

Paiste SCDR 3146 grams 2 rivets

Bosphorus Hammer Ride 2550 grams 2 rivets

Paiste Siganture Rough Ride 3062 grams

Zildjian John Riley Stick....tip is chipped and worn down a bit from tons of gigs


What happened at the end of the video?
Sounds like you chose the wrong box on a game show.
Bos sounds nice, but I'm really surprised the sound of the Rough Ride.
I can't believe that cymbal is over 3000 grams.
Like the other's, I'd probably pick the Bos, but I really like that Rough Ride, too.

Elvis
 

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What happened at the end of the video?
Sounds like you chose the wrong box on a game show.
Bos sounds nice, but I'm really surprised the sound of the Rough Ride.
I can't believe that cymbal is over 3000 grams.
Like the other's, I'd probably pick the Bos, but I really like that Rough Ride, too.

Elvis
Ha ha.
I have no idea what happened.

Yeah. The rough ride is amazing. It blends in the band like the scdr

All the "weird" tones you hear in a cymbal demo...that goes away...
 

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Of the two, I prefer the Sabian over the Paiste SC, which to my ears has an annoying "hum" underneath (personally, I have never heard a SC that didn't sound "hummy" or "clangy", but won't elaborate any further for fear of having my house tee-peed by a gang of marauding Paisteites).

Here is my scdr in recording

I dont hear clang etc

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https://soundcloud.com/james-spinazzola%2Fwebernin
 

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Agree the 19 Mel sounds good but too similar in pitch to the 22 Bos. Not enough of a step between them. what I hear as a kind of see-saw thing when going back and forth between two cymbals. The Bos and the Legacy had that step between them tonewise, but I can see you prefer a smaller one on the left.
 

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So. Ill keep this up for a few days
Piano and flute are beginners..sitting in.
Guitar player is a blues/rock player not really a jazz player.
Bass and sax older more experienced.
I really made a cymbal video here. That is why Im switch back and forth so much. Normally I wouldnt do that.
Also switching between Erskine Ride stick and Vater Jazz Ride.
I like the Vater. Gives fuller sound and spread
13" sabian manhattan hats
22" bosphorus hammer ride 2 rivets
19" agop mel lewis crash/ride
Gretsch round badge kit


This just shows to go ya. I liked the Legacy in the cymbals-only comparison, but this Bos is working great in the combo. There's a serious limit to how well I can assess a cymbal on its own. I need to hear it in context. In this context, I'd stick with the Bos.
 

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Yes. I am bringing the legacies.

Here is a "hotter/louder" video of the Bosphorus Hammer and the Mel Lewis 19"

I am using Regal Tip Jeff Hamilton model sticks

what zoom camera are you using? Sounds good

thanks for the video
 

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