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- May 20, 2016
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Those all sound like titles of your threads!Here's today's TMZ headlines. Are these the types of stories someone looking for "legit news" would seek out?
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Geesh. Legit news source! It's almost funny how off the mark that is. Legit!
Josh is a weirdo, a loveable one at that but he’s also expensive and doesn’t seem like the average “gun for hire” who would do that type of gig. Aerosmith will get what they paid for.I would think if they called in Josh Feese for example, they would have very little in the way of interaction with him, except for rehearsals. Plus, the reason someone like Josh is THE GUY to call is exactly because they know their role and job and wouldn't be a weirdo.
Great point. Some bands are made up of people who are loyal to each other and others are made of people just in it for themselves. I remember a couple of years ago Bon Jovi cancelled or rescheduled a few shows because Tico came down with the flu or something. They could have easily gotten a sub but didn't because Tico is the drummer for Bon Jovi and that was that.Joey hurts his ankle, is made to audition and deemed not worthy enough. Did Def Leppard make Rick Allen audition after losing a friggin' arm?
Rich Scanella filled in for some gigs.Great point. Some bands are made up of people who are loyal to each other and others are made of people just in it for themselves. I remember a couple of years ago Bon Jovi cancelled or rescheduled a few shows because Tico came down with the flu or something. They could have easily gotten a sub but didn't because Tico is the drummer for Bon Jovi and that was that.
It just seems like he was having that taped, possibly for use in whatever future legal wrangilngs. It didn't look like he was surprised to be turned away, nor did he push back. So far, Joey is handling all of this with 100% professionalism and class and my hat is off to him.Here he is being turned away from rehearsal.
There is something to your line of thinking. When I was drum teching for Zoro on the Lenny Kravitz world tour, I knew every break, every guitar solo note etc. in my mind and don’t profess to be any qualified guitar player. I was so tuned into every nuance of every song because I synced in loops, percussion backing, etc. as well as teching. The big aspect is trust As well, which can happen as you spend every waking moment with the band.Think about it for a minute. You have a guy that's a drummer himself, who watches the show every night, knows all the songs, cues, changes, segues, etc, is known and presumably liked by the band and crew, and will work for a lot less than a "hired gun" who they'd have to rehearse with.
Don't get me wrong - the whole thing sucks if indeed they're forcing Joey out. Will it effect John's future employment? I seriously doubt it. If anything, it will raise his stock. I hope they work this mess out, but if it's really about money and band ownership (which I'm not sure it is) then greed usually wins. I'm hoping for the best for Joey, whatever the outcome is.
I am getting the impression that you believe being a tech automatically makes you a weaker drummer. I know John Tempesta was a tech first.Josh is a weirdo, a loveable one at that but he’s also expensive and doesn’t seem like the average “gun for hire” who would do that type of gig. Aerosmith will get what they paid for.
They’re pulling a Kiss and hiring a tech to do the fill in.
No, I’m very far from that belief. You have to understand the mechanics of drumming far more than anything to be a good tech. I also remember John from the Kik Tracee days.I am getting the impression that you believe being a tech automatically makes you a weaker drummer. I know John Tempesta was a tech first.
I had a profane post earlier which was rightly removed.. However my take on this is, the answer is almost ZERO rehearsal time. There, I said it.I have a serious question, I promise I am not being snarky. After playing together for over 40 years, how much rehearsal time does the band really need?
None of us know whether or not he has talked about it with Joey. He's been subbing in his absence for a while now, just playing until Joey recovers. There is absolutely no (at least public) indication that Joey won't return and that he won't continue to have a good relationship with his tech/sub. Aerosmith actually seems to be treating this as a temporary situation.He should probably consider that severance pay, because Joey, if he rightly returns will shitcan him.
So he gets the gig to sub an entire concert on songs he admittedly had never played before with 6 hours notice yet Joey Kramer isn't allowed to get his job back for a televised show on songs he's been playing for over 40 years.Drummer and Artist John Douglas Drummer and artist, John Douglas combines his two passions, ultimately becoming a drum customizer for many superstar bands.www.moderndrummer.com
Why would they call anyone else after pulling this off? He's not just jumping in to steal Joey's job at the last minute, he's BEEN doing Joey's job because he couldn't.