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I just read DrummerJustLikeDad's initial introduction. Inspiring.

I never post much on forums because I'm so hit or miss. It's rare that I have time to really stay on forums and get to know people. So I try to avoid posting too much because eventually my life demands that I disappear (and often things get so snotty and contentious, but I haven't seen that here too much, so that gives me hope for the future). I've asked a couple questions here, and everyone has been super cool so far.

Anyway, that introduction inspired me to introduce myself.

[Pour yourself some Scotch or whatever you're into]...



Hi. I'm Jon.

Thanks guys - PEACE.


JK

OK to fill in some of the details. I've been drumming my whole life pretty much. The kid who always got yelled at for tapping on his desk in the 2nd grade because the rhythm was always in me.

When I was 10 my big brother got a drum set to play in jazz band in high school. A [something] by Pearl 5 piece with hi hat and one cymbal all generic. Blue wrap of some kind. No knowledge of drums or skill. No internet to quickly learn stuff.

But I saw that drum set and I was like WHAT. THE. HECK? It was like when chocolate and peanut butter suddenly collide and realize they were meant for each other. You couldn't pry me off that thing,

I was the loudest thing on the planet and at 10 years old I found the first thing that I was literally good at (I wasn't but I felt like I was). It felt like I found my reason for being here. At 10 years old.

I was the loudest thing on the planet and I loved it.

Early on, my mom said if we're going to be banging those things, we'd better learn it right. So she started taking us to real lessons every week (thanks, mom). I was SO excited to show that guy how AWESOME I was at drum set. In the music store listening outside the drum room as my brother and the teacher hammered out Mel Bay's Funk Drumming. Shaking with excitement.

Then I walk in. The guy (a GREAT drummer and teacher in my hometown - mustache and looked exactly like Magnum PI - exactly) looks at me, all Scrappy Doo holding my sticks ready to KILL SOMETHING! and he pulls the snare drum away from the kit, heightens it up maybe an inch for me, walks out and brings back Hasell W. Harr Drum Method, Book 1. I almost cried. For like 2 years we went through that horrible book. And when I was done, OH TODAY IS THE DAY! But then he walks out and brings back - you guessed it - BOOK 2! NO!!!

Of course, I am eternally grateful. Without that rudimentary foundation. If I had just "learned a bunch of nifty beats" I wouldn't be half the drummer I am - whatever that is. By learning the building blocks, instead of parroting various nifty beats, I am able to play music and get around in most musical situations. THANK YOU drum teacher!

Anyway, my brother had, you know, friends and stuff, so I ended up with those drums all to myself. You had to drag me off that thing. I practiced the snare but then I would go nuts on the kit. I remember the boom box with Zeppelin IV and 1984 cassettes and I would pound and learn (Black Dog and the polyrhythms on Stairway near the end). Then I got into the hair metal things - playing in bands. Motley Crue. KISS.

Early high school I got a job washing dishes at a Mexican restaurant. Borrowed the money from my mom to pay for my first real kit, a Premier APK, IIRC. LOUD. And none more blacker. And we played all the angry rock and stuff. Double kick, hair everywhere. I remember feeling set apart, like it gave me an identity. Around that time I made it to Mel Bay's Funk Drumming and it's still the primary thing that shapes how I try to play - syncopation, ghost notes and giving primacy always to the groove.

Anyway late high school I started writing and recording my own stuff. Playing guitar and bass - I can cheat through some compelling pop keyboard/piano stuff in the studio. Made a bunch of albums on my own, released to almost total obscurity. (This is fine, because to me, music is NOT a fundamentally commercial endeavor. Music is part of culture, part of who we are as humans. At some point someone came along and found a way to commercialize and monetize it, but that guy doesn't get to change the very definition of what music IS. Yes, we can make some money playing music, but "an income generating activity" is not what music fundamentally IS. OK I digress...)

Always played drums for my own recordings. In band contexts I was usually the leader and songwriter, though I didn't do a lot of that (usually because the DRUMMER almost aways turned out to be an anti-social psychopath who was not very good at playing drums). I quit wanting to be in bands because the drummer was always a nut job, and was almost always the worst drummer in the band somehow.

Dropped out of high school, got saved, did a bunch of mission work, got a law degree, got married, finally got a real job, got 3 kids... Picked up other hobbies and stuff to keep my interest along the way, but all the while music never left. I've almost always had a drum set nearby or at home where I've lived, and if not I ALWAYS had a guitar and was writing or messing with music. It's a thing.



So now about a year ago, I got asked to "put a band together" to play this thing for some college ministry thing run by some friends of mine. Like an outdoor BBQ meet and greet. 3 guys I know well who I've played some stuff with. We get together - no practice with all of us (hadn't seen the bass player in 2 months - he had just moved to town the night before) and we were like OK GO! And it was GROOVY and immensely fun for all of us. We all made like $40 and didn't care. People liked it and we were having an absolute blast

So now a year later we're playing around locally maybe once or twice a month. Get a nice small crowd who really enjoys our sound. Yeah we do some covers to keep the lights on and to enjoy playing some of our favorite songs, but we do a lot of original stuff too. Diverse. Some reggae, some pop, classic rock and a lot of instrumental groovy soul jazz kinda stuff. Lots of diverse originals. I'm having so much fun playing drums again. We're doing a bunch of my songs but I don't have to LEAD the band. I can be the drummer.

In the band, we're all FRIENDS. Before we were in a band. We actually talk through stuff when things get weird in a practice or something. We work at being conscientious and collaborating. I love these guys.

But DRUMS, y'all. I haven't been focused on JUST drums in so long I forgot how much I love the drums. Not worrying about melody or whatever, just listening and trying to bring everyone together musically and building up whoever's soloing or whatever is happening in the song. And our bass player is so funky and good. We just lock in.

I haven't focused on being a drum specialist and I'm too old to have a chance to become a great drummer (or even a particularly good drummer, I suppose). But I am making music with my friends on the drums and I am LOVING it. And I'm practicing and getting better than I ever was.

And the more I learn, the more obvious it becomes how good I am NOT! I listen to random hackers online showing off their new kit and running circles around me technically. Whenever people are like "You're so good at drums," I think of the millions of unknown hackers who destroy me on drums, and I smile and say "thanks."

I bring my son sometimes and he vaguely helps me set up but hangs with me. Sometimes he sits right next to me while I'm playing and I'll lean over and explain how I'm listening to the rest of the band and what I'm thinking about. Or make a joke to make him laugh. Reading the introduction from DrummerJustLikeDad, I couldn't help but picture my son someday, with my 1971 Ludwig Standard right in the middle, fishing through dad's old cymbal bad for that perfect vintage new beat hi hat combo for the day... I hope he gets into making music - it has been such a life-affirming sustaining force for me.

OK sorry for rambling. I haven't been drinking that much...

Maybe this is the first time since this band started a year ago that I realized how much I love playing drums. BEING the drummer. We have such a cool role to play. I love being the guy who glues everyone together musically and lays the solid foundation. The keyboard player can lose his mind and bring us all to deep space nine (he doesn't, btw. But he COULD) and I would be there providing the landing spot. I love being the guy who can drop a nice phat backbeat for the singer that gives him confidence instead of surrounding him with bashing chaos. I love to be the guy without as much to think about so I can help set the TONE in rehearsals and gigs.

OK that is about enough. I have already interacted with a few of y'all but looking forward to getting to know y'all a little more. If anyone is still reading: Thanks.

Quick shout out to my lovely wife of 13 years who is totally behind me being in a nerdy yet groovy dad band. She tries to accommodate the thing as much as possible and never treats me like a stupid kid just wanting to goof off. I'm a decent drummer, at best, but she acts like I'm AWESOME! Thanks, wife.

PEACE
Jon
 

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I just read DrummerJustLikeDad's initial introduction. Inspiring.

I never post much on forums because I'm so hit or miss. It's rare that I have time to really stay on forums and get to know people. So I try to avoid posting too much because eventually my life demands that I disappear (and often things get so snotty and contentious, but I haven't seen that here too much, so that gives me hope for the future). I've asked a couple questions here, and everyone has been super cool so far.

Anyway, that introduction inspired me to introduce myself.

[Pour yourself some Scotch or whatever you're into]...



Hi. I'm Jon.

Thanks guys - PEACE.


JK

OK to fill in some of the details. I've been drumming my whole life pretty much. The kid who always got yelled at for tapping on his desk in the 2nd grade because the rhythm was always in me.

When I was 10 my big brother got a drum set to play in jazz band in high school. A [something] by Pearl 5 piece with hi hat and one cymbal all generic. Blue wrap of some kind. No knowledge of drums or skill. No internet to quickly learn stuff.

But I saw that drum set and I was like WHAT. THE. HECK? It was like when chocolate and peanut butter suddenly collide and realize they were meant for each other. You couldn't pry me off that thing,

I was the loudest thing on the planet and at 10 years old I found the first thing that I was literally good at (I wasn't but I felt like I was). It felt like I found my reason for being here. At 10 years old.

I was the loudest thing on the planet and I loved it.

Early on, my mom said if we're going to be banging those things, we'd better learn it right. So she started taking us to real lessons every week (thanks, mom). I was SO excited to show that guy how AWESOME I was at drum set. In the music store listening outside the drum room as my brother and the teacher hammered out Mel Bay's Funk Drumming. Shaking with excitement.

Then I walk in. The guy (a GREAT drummer and teacher in my hometown - mustache and looked exactly like Magnum PI - exactly) looks at me, all Scrappy Doo holding my sticks ready to KILL SOMETHING! and he pulls the snare drum away from the kit, heightens it up maybe an inch for me, walks out and brings back Hasell W. Harr Drum Method, Book 1. I almost cried. For like 2 years we went through that horrible book. And when I was done, OH TODAY IS THE DAY! But then he walks out and brings back - you guessed it - BOOK 2! NO!!!

Of course, I am eternally grateful. Without that rudimentary foundation. If I had just "learned a bunch of nifty beats" I wouldn't be half the drummer I am - whatever that is. By learning the building blocks, instead of parroting various nifty beats, I am able to play music and get around in most musical situations. THANK YOU drum teacher!

Anyway, my brother had, you know, friends and stuff, so I ended up with those drums all to myself. You had to drag me off that thing. I practiced the snare but then I would go nuts on the kit. I remember the boom box with Zeppelin IV and 1984 cassettes and I would pound and learn (Black Dog and the polyrhythms on Stairway near the end). Then I got into the hair metal things - playing in bands. Motley Crue. KISS.

Early high school I got a job washing dishes at a Mexican restaurant. Borrowed the money from my mom to pay for my first real kit, a Premier APK, IIRC. LOUD. And none more blacker. And we played all the angry rock and stuff. Double kick, hair everywhere. I remember feeling set apart, like it gave me an identity. Around that time I made it to Mel Bay's Funk Drumming and it's still the primary thing that shapes how I try to play - syncopation, ghost notes and giving primacy always to the groove.

Anyway late high school I started writing and recording my own stuff. Playing guitar and bass - I can cheat through some compelling pop keyboard/piano stuff in the studio. Made a bunch of albums on my own, released to almost total obscurity. (This is fine, because to me, music is NOT a fundamentally commercial endeavor. Music is part of culture, part of who we are as humans. At some point someone came along and found a way to commercialize and monetize it, but that guy doesn't get to change the very definition of what music IS. Yes, we can make some money playing music, but "an income generating activity" is not what music fundamentally IS. OK I digress...)

Always played drums for my own recordings. In band contexts I was usually the leader and songwriter, though I didn't do a lot of that (usually because the DRUMMER almost aways turned out to be an anti-social psychopath who was not very good at playing drums). I quit wanting to be in bands because the drummer was always a nut job, and was almost always the worst drummer in the band somehow.

Dropped out of high school, got saved, did a bunch of mission work, got a law degree, got married, finally got a real job, got 3 kids... Picked up other hobbies and stuff to keep my interest along the way, but all the while music never left. I've almost always had a drum set nearby or at home where I've lived, and if not I ALWAYS had a guitar and was writing or messing with music. It's a thing.



So now about a year ago, I got asked to "put a band together" to play this thing for some college ministry thing run by some friends of mine. Like an outdoor BBQ meet and greet. 3 guys I know well who I've played some stuff with. We get together - no practice with all of us (hadn't seen the bass player in 2 months - he had just moved to town the night before) and we were like OK GO! And it was GROOVY and immensely fun for all of us. We all made like $40 and didn't care. People liked it and we were having an absolute blast

So now a year later we're playing around locally maybe once or twice a month. Get a nice small crowd who really enjoys our sound. Yeah we do some covers to keep the lights on and to enjoy playing some of our favorite songs, but we do a lot of original stuff too. Diverse. Some reggae, some pop, classic rock and a lot of instrumental groovy soul jazz kinda stuff. Lots of diverse originals. I'm having so much fun playing drums again. We're doing a bunch of my songs but I don't have to LEAD the band. I can be the drummer.

In the band, we're all FRIENDS. Before we were in a band. We actually talk through stuff when things get weird in a practice or something. We work at being conscientious and collaborating. I love these guys.

But DRUMS, y'all. I haven't been focused on JUST drums in so long I forgot how much I love the drums. Not worrying about melody or whatever, just listening and trying to bring everyone together musically and building up whoever's soloing or whatever is happening in the song. And our bass player is so funky and good. We just lock in.

I haven't focused on being a drum specialist and I'm too old to have a chance to become a great drummer (or even a particularly good drummer, I suppose). But I am making music with my friends on the drums and I am LOVING it. And I'm practicing and getting better than I ever was.

And the more I learn, the more obvious it becomes how good I am NOT! I listen to random hackers online showing off their new kit and running circles around me technically. Whenever people are like "You're so good at drums," I think of the millions of unknown hackers who destroy me on drums, and I smile and say "thanks."

I bring my son sometimes and he vaguely helps me set up but hangs with me. Sometimes he sits right next to me while I'm playing and I'll lean over and explain how I'm listening to the rest of the band and what I'm thinking about. Or make a joke to make him laugh. Reading the introduction from DrummerJustLikeDad, I couldn't help but picture my son someday, with my 1971 Ludwig Standard right in the middle, fishing through dad's old cymbal bad for that perfect vintage new beat hi hat combo for the day... I hope he gets into making music - it has been such a life-affirming sustaining force for me.

OK sorry for rambling. I haven't been drinking that much...

Maybe this is the first time since this band started a year ago that I realized how much I love playing drums. BEING the drummer. We have such a cool role to play. I love being the guy who glues everyone together musically and lays the solid foundation. The keyboard player can lose his mind and bring us all to deep space nine (he doesn't, btw. But he COULD) and I would be there providing the landing spot. I love being the guy who can drop a nice phat backbeat for the singer that gives him confidence instead of surrounding him with bashing chaos. I love to be the guy without as much to think about so I can help set the TONE in rehearsals and gigs.

OK that is about enough. I have already interacted with a few of y'all but looking forward to getting to know y'all a little more. If anyone is still reading: Thanks.

Quick shout out to my lovely wife of 13 years who is totally behind me being in a nerdy yet groovy dad band. She tries to accommodate the thing as much as possible and never treats me like a stupid kid just wanting to goof off. I'm a decent drummer, at best, but she acts like I'm AWESOME! Thanks, wife.

PEACE
Jon
Well welcome aboard Jon, I haven't been here long but as forums go, you'll find this one to be mostly populated by good human beings. Definitely a hepful and welcomming bunch.
 

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Well welcome aboard Jon, I haven't been here long but as forums go, you'll find this one to be mostly populated by good human beings. Definitely a hepful and welcomming bunch.
That's my experience so far. I don't see a lot of the "well, actually" and then they make the guy being quoted feel like an idiot. I think I like it here.
 

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Hi Jon, welcome to DFO.

Great introductory post. You are going to have to work hard to top it. ;)

Seriously though, this is a good digital hang.
 

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Hey, welcome! Great group of folks here, for sure. Always quick to answer a question or help you out somehow.

Excellent intro... a really good story. I’ve always said everyone has an interesting life, and yours sounds particularly full! Now you’re combining faith, family, friends and drums all in one, hard to top that. It’s wonderful that you’ve gotten to fall in love with drumming again, it’s a good feeling. I came to drums later in life, and didn’t play an instrument as a kid, and I often wonder “what if”. When I finally sat behind a drum set, the connection was immediate. I found my passion, and making music has been a love affair ever since. I would’ve loved to have been exposed to drums as a kid, to be in jazz band, to be the neighborhood garage drummer. To take lessons from Magnum PI! You (and others who’ve had parents that supported music lessons) are fortunate, I truly believe every kid should have the opportunity. If only the world had more musicians!

Nice to meet you, hope to see you around. And we’d all love to see/hear your music if you have some you can share or link to... No video, it didn’t happen!
 

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Hi Jonny, cheers from another new guy here. Great story, really cool to have a band with good friends like that, and a supportive wife. It sounds like you're in a very good place.
 

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Welcome aboard sir. That was a great intro post. This is one of the few forums I keep coming back to as the people here are both knowledgeable and nice.
 

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Geez, that was the worst intro I’ve ever read here! :rolleyes:

I kidd! :-D! That was really a cool intro actually. Glad your finding happiness in drumming and other aspects of life. Obviously we’re drawn to this forum to talk drums and drumming, but there is a lot of other interesting OT things spoken about here as well, and that really makes for a cool little community. Enjoy your time here, see you on the forums!:salute:
 

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Sweet, but be careful around here because these guys can spot a gnat on a flies ass from a mile away......Harry the founder of this forum is really missed, but he got tired of some of the b.s..............especially Ronn Dunnet
 

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I came to drums later in life, and didn’t play an instrument as a kid, and I often wonder “what if”. When I finally sat behind a drum set, the connection was immediate.
I think it's great that you pulled the trigger and tried it. I know so many people who "always wanted to play an instrument" but then they never do it. Music makes our lives better, IMO.
 


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