Ambassador snare heads- hazy vs clear ?

[jaymandude]

About to order from drum factory direct, and they have no collar Remo's YAY.

What's up with the clear vs hazy tho ? When did this start ? Any sonic difference ? However minimal or perceived ha ha

 

[Treviso1]

HAZY!!! All caps on purpose!

 

[Tmcfour]

Probably depends on what your playing and or how articulate you need your sound to be. I personally have used them interchangeably depending on what was available and not noticed a difference. Others I'm sure have different experiences with them.

 

[Paradiddle]

I always use Hazy, but I'm not sure why. LOL

 

[kickassdrummer]

Pretty sure they're identical from a "specs" perspective, but the clear is only available in 14" it appears (from the Remo website). The hazy comes in 8" through 16".

 

[jtpaistegeist]

IMO the haze adds a bit a warmth to the tone. Just like a clear vs ebony ambassador.. The ebony is noticeably darker in sound, big time. I am guessing this has to do with the mylar, and how added color, mass, or maybe a sightly different film.

 

[dsop]

I personally have used them interchangeably depending on what was available and not noticed a difference.

Me too. No difference as far as I can tell. I wonder why they don't offer the no-collar option with the Diplomat weight.

 

[jptrickster]

I remember when the haze was purple

 

[tillerva]

I always use Hazy, but I'm not sure why. LOL

Same here. I like the look I guess.
Regarding the mention of ebony, does it truly offer a different tone? Remo just said they add a reflective black look.

 

[dsop]

Same here. I like the look I guess.
Regarding the mention of ebony, does it truly offer a different tone? Remo just said they add a reflective black look.

The Ebony batter heads definitely sound different. It's a different film. You can even hear the difference between a Black dot and a Clear dot. The Black heads seem to have a bit more attack or transience.

 

[Johnny K]

I always use Hazy, but I'm not sure why. LOL

Excuse me, while I crash this pie. LOL.

I dont know why either. My unedumicated self seems to think that the hazys may impart a little more sensitivty. I use Amb Vintage over Dip Hazys. Recently paring this combo with the 42 strand snare I took off my new Gretsch 4160 COB, my cheap ass Gretsch Catalina Maple snare sounds incredible now that I got it all dialed in and cranked up to a high tune. Press rolls for days!

 

[Toast Tee]

The Ebony batter heads definitely sound different. It's a different film. You can even hear the difference between a Black dot and a Clear dot. The Black heads seem to have a bit more attack or transience.

Ebony is Remo, and the equivalent to Evan's Black Chrome?
I've been an Emporer/Ambassador my whole life, but this year put on Black Chrome heads for theft first time. For Bubinga kits, they stay warm, with a better attack. I find them easier to tune as well for some reason
Opps OP was talking Hazy vs reg. Idk

 

[Tmcfour]

Excuse me, while I crash this pie. LOL.

I dont know why either. My unedumicated self seems to think that the hazys may impart a little more sensitivty. I use Amb Vintage over Dip Hazys. Recently paring this combo with the 42 strand snare I took off my new Gretsch 4160 COB, my cheap ass Gretsch Catalina Maple snare sounds incredible now that I got it all dialed in and cranked up to a high tune. Press rolls for days!

I've found my Cat Maple snare to be surprisingly versatile.

 

[On the one]

I wondered the same thing, don't know why but I use clear

 

[Ptrick]

The no collar heads were originally marching snare bottom heads. In my experience, they don’t stretch nearly as much as the regular hazy’s, and sonically are a tiny bit sharper sounding. If you like to crank your snare bottoms, they are great. I still think the Aquarian classic clear snare bottoms are my overall favorite, though. Last forever and hold their tunings.

 

[Seb77]

The Ebony batter heads definitely sound different. It's a different film. You can even hear the difference between a Black dot and a Clear dot. The Black heads seem to have a bit more attack or transience.

Those dots have different thicknesses.
The films, clear, white, black etc., certainly sound slightly different.

 

[dsop]

Those dots have different thicknesses.

Exactly! They're all supposed to be 5 mil, but I'm positive that the clear dots are a bit thinner. That's why I prefer the Coated with Clear dot underneath for snare drums. They're almost like regular Ambassador heads, with a tiny bit of added beef.

 

[Jordan Blue]

I remember when the haze was purple

was it in your brain?

 

[jptrickster]

Twas purple barrels all in my brain. Thanksgiving turkey was flapping his wings at the table !

 

[Targalx]

I’ve used both, very little difference. I just get whatever’s cheaper and/or available at the music store. Lately, I've been using neither: I'm running those Ludwig X-Thin snare side heads and enjoying them very much.