Any idea as to the value of these cymbals?

[zenstat]

18", 60s stamp, 1798g

Prices of Used Avedis Zildjian Cymbals

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Not worth bothering over too much given your "let me know if it is worth more than $150". From my research:

60s Stamp: $101 with half selling for between $77 and $150 n=56

You might get to $150 if it were a crash weight (<1400g) rather than an 18" ride. Unless you still have weight class or model ink on the cymbal?

You still haven't managed a photo of any of your cymbals which really meets the requirements Tama CW mentioned to get a proper valuation:

1966-1972 K Zildjian Istanbul New Stamp on the first stamp. Other one is an Avedis 1960's stamp.
To determine value need photos of both sides of each, and weights.

So these estimates are based on knowing nothing about the condition.

 

[stockjock]

First off, thanks for all of the help and advice. I did list the 22" Old K New Stamp on Reverb, which is my first listing there (I've sold a lot of unrelated stuff on Ebay under stockjock, fwiw).

BTW, if anyone thinks that I should instead or also list on Ebay, it would be good to know. Reverb asked a number of tax questions that Ebay didn't seem to ask.

If anyone wants to check out the listing, photos, and a short video, here's a link. It was suggested that I start the price where it is, so why not? If anyone has any questions, just let me know.

 

[stockjock]

 

[stockjock]

Above are the high hat cymbals, which are Zildjian 14" New Beat. I think I bought these new in the early 1980s. Guessing the value is in the $250-$350 range? Let me know if I'm off on that.

Again, the reason for all of this is that mom passed away in July. We've got to sell her house, and obviously the drums and cymbals can't stay any longer.

 

[zenstat]

About New Beats

A Brief History Of New Beats

The general context of 14"

Prices of Used Avedis Zildjian Cymbals

The range $250 - $350 seems a bit optimistic to me based on historical sales. I've got records for lots of New Beats because Zildjian made lots of them and they are fairly common and I've been tracking prices since 2014. Just looking at the 2020 - 2022 data I'm still seeing a price distribution which suggests prices may be up a bit from my last report (January 2018)

• 1970s: Expected median price $130 with half selling for between $123 and $180 n=26
• 1980s: Expected median price $125 with half selling for between $115 and $139 n=9

but the upper likely quartile range is more like $250 than $350 with an average of $158. That's based on 39 more sales in the years 2020 - 2022 although I still have some follow up work to do on entry given that 2022 didn't finish that long ago. Yours are generally regarded at 1978 to mid 1982 based on the ink. My 1970s price is based on the trademark stamp plus ink, and the 1980s classification is based on ink plus the use of the CO trademark stamp. There are relatively few in the 1980s category because they are only the ones I could be sure of. I'll improve that situation next time I update my analysis because we've learned new things since then.

Starting with the price too high means you will get views but much less follow up. But no harm in asking if that is what you want to get. You can always drop the price later, or accept a lower offer. This also applies to your 22" New Stamp Istanbul K. There is one thing I'd mention though with that one. Your sound file is supposed to give people an idea of what the cymbal sounds like. You don't play a single note, which is going to amuse or annoy some people.

I didn't say so before, but sorry for the loss of your mom. It is never easy. Good luck with your sales.

 

[stockjock]

About New Beats

A Brief History Of New Beats

The general context of 14"

Prices of Used Avedis Zildjian Cymbals

The range $250 - $350 seems a bit optimistic to me based on historical sales. I've got records for lots of New Beats because Zildjian made lots of them and they are fairly common and I've been tracking prices since 2014. Just looking at the 2020 - 2022 data I'm still seeing a price distribution which suggests prices may be up a bit from my last report (January 2018)

• 1970s: Expected median price $130 with half selling for between $123 and $180 n=26
• 1980s: Expected median price $125 with half selling for between $115 and $139 n=9

but the upper likely quartile range is more like $250 than $350 with an average of $158. That's based on 39 more sales in the years 2020 - 2022 although I still have some follow up work to do on entry given that 2022 didn't finish that long ago. Yours are generally regarded at 1978 to mid 1982 based on the ink. My 1970s price is based on the trademark stamp, and the 1980s classification is based on ink plus the use of the CO trademark stamp.

Starting with the price too high means you will get views but much less follow up. But no harm in asking if that is what you want to get. You can always drop the price later, or accept a lower offer. This also applies to your 22" New Stamp Istanbul K. There is one thing I'd mention though with that one. Your sound file is supposed to give people an idea of what the cymbal sounds like. You don't play a single note, which is going to amuse or annoy some people.

I didn't say so before, but sorry for the loss of your mom. It is never easy. Good luck with your sales.

Thanks! From what I can gather, these are 2nd generation New Beat, 1970s to 1981. That would make sense, as it's when I bought them.

I assume your numbers are for the set?

 

[zenstat]

Thanks! From what I can gather, these are 2nd generation New Beat, 1970s to 1981. That would make sense, as it's when I bought them.

I assume your numbers are for the set?

Yes the numbers are for a pair. Given the hollow ink Zildjian and the lack of diameter ink, they are specifically 1978-mid 1982 and your recalled purchase year sits nicely in that.

I'm having trouble reading the weight of the top hat. The bottom is a clear 1385g, but can you tell me what the top says? Is it 1077g? Could just be my cataracts slowing me down. Those weights fit in with the expected weights.

 

[stockjock]

Yes the numbers are for a pair. Given the hollow ink Zildjian and the lack of diameter ink, they are specifically 1978-mid 1982 and your recalled purchase year sits nicely in that.

I'm having trouble reading the weight of the top hat. The bottom is a clear 1385g, but can you tell me what the top says? Is it 1077g? Could just be my cataracts slowing me down. Those weights fit in with the expected weights.

Yes the top is 1077g.

I've had cataract surgery on both eyes, so let me know if you have any questions about that.

 

[Tama CW]

The New Beat hats are in average condition and on the heavier side for these. I'd value them at $125-$175 with $150 being about the norm.
The 18" cymbal is on the heavy side as well. That's in the $85-$135 range imo with typical value around $100 imo. It really comes down to catching the right buyer at the right time.

I'd recommend including a sound video of your 22" K in the Reverb listing....especially if it sounds good. It has a pretty heavy film of patina on top which could be either a plus or negative for the tone.

 

[stockjock]

I have a question about the Reverb listing.

So the 22" Old K, New Stamp is on Reverb. I got one message saying, hey we'll buy your cymbal, e-mail us, which sounded like a scam.

Someone else put in what I am pretty sure was a legitimate offer, but I didn't accept. Then someone else put in an offer, but only $50 less than asking and with a request to e-mail them and I thought that was probably a scam.

Is there a lot of scamming going on at Reverb? Is it a safe place to sell or is Ebay safer? So far, I've had 3 offers, or suggestions that they'd buy, but I suspect that only 1 of the 3 is legitimate.

 

[Rich K.]

I have a question about the Reverb listing.

So the 22" Old K, New Stamp is on Reverb. I got one message saying, hey we'll buy your cymbal, e-mail us, which sounded like a scam.

Someone else put in what I am pretty sure was a legitimate offer, but I didn't accept. Then someone else put in an offer, but only $50 less than asking and with a request to e-mail them and I thought that was probably a scam.

Is there a lot of scamming going on at Reverb? Is it a safe place to sell or is Ebay safer? So far, I've had 3 offers, or suggestions that they'd buy, but I suspect that only 1 of the 3 is legitimate.

Lots of scammers on reverb. If they ask for an email, just report them and don't respond.

 

[lossforgain]

Lots of scammers on reverb. If they ask for an email, just report them and don't respond.

This is correct @stockjock, I have been getting a lot of those “email me” messages and they are never legit, not even once.