In the 2013 redesign the tops were thinner and the profile lower, but the bottoms were unchanged so they actually got relatively heavier compared to the tops. It is all documented on my site:Redesigned New Beats are thinner these days. Curious how they compare to old Sweet hats.
Thanks Tony. I've added your weights.The Redesigned New Beats are still heavier than the Sweet Hats. I’ve owned both.
Steve, my 15” Redesigned New Beats weigh in at 1130/1690g, so now you have one data point.
The Sweet Hats I had were like a Med-Thin (or Thin) top with a Med-Thin Bottom. I wish I had recorded the weights for you. But my Sweet Hats top and bottom were very close in weight and I considered them to be pretty light cymbals suited for more quite music. They felt like a light pair of hats.
By contrast, the New Beats feel heavier - because they definitely are heavier. The Redesign (in my experience) did not bring the New Beats anywhere near the Sweet Hats territory. They are still two different animals.
Any change of finding out a bit more? Is all the model ink there and they are clearly a top and a bottom Sweet Hats? Did he buy them new? Special order? Could somebody else have paired them up (besides Leon Chiappini and his assistants in the Zildjian factory)? Any chance of pics and weights?The variance must be huge, because one of my good friends has a pair of Brilliant Sweet Hats and the bottom is heavier than any modern New Beat bottom I've seen and the top is lighter than any modern New Beat top I've seen.