I think JR Robinson buries the beater most of the time. Same with Jeff Porcaro, most of the time. Definitely seen Vinnie do it. I remembered JR & JP talking about it somewhere - can't find it the quotes, but check out these:Some of my role models here are Steve Gadd and Dave Weckl, Simon Phillips, JR Robinson - I don't think any of them buries the beater. Vinnie might do it, have to check some videos.
It's very difficult with a more open BD to play repetitive figures without flutter. The BD I play on every day is a 14x18, with a mesh batter head and full reso head with no muffling. Flutter consumed a good year to have control of, and I still have issues with it if I'm not concentrating. Guys like Carlock and Mayer have controlled release dialed-in to an art on open bass drums.99% of the time I play off the head. I got used to it playing bass drum with a full front head. It´s default by now but if I play a slammin´ four on the floor beat I sometimes bury. I find a bass drum sounds richer and fuller by bouncing off the head.
I think it's OK to rest the beater on the head for a break to release tension. Legs are heavy, and keeping the beater completely off the head is tiring and builds tension on its own.I don't consciously bury the beater, but will notice I do it anyway. I have to make to point not to leave it against the bass drum head at rest. One of many things I could get better at.
You may be defining 'rebound' in the reactive sense, when the topic is using it in a recovery sense. You don't need a spring to 'recover' the beater's motion and return it to the start position.can't say ever aware of "rebound" off a bass drum/ bass drum pedal/ Yes the pedal pulls back but that is not from bouncing off the head as much as the pedal spring pulling the beater back.
Thanks, I think I got this mixed up: JR often plays heel down, but it looks like even then he buries the beater.I think JR Robinson buries the beater most of the time.
This is correct and scientifically proven. The beater does hit the head twice on initial impact every time. The same is true for a stick. The result of burying the beater is in fact many hits on the head before it moves away.So the beater doesn't hit the head once and stay mute until the next note, it hits the head and faintly buzzes for a few milliseconds afterwards. I can't really see how this does not happen with everyone. You have a resonating head and you touch it with something hard - it is bound to jitter.
Is your front head ported? I found this to be an issue with an un-ported head, as the air would actually push the beater back off the head for a split second when trying to bury it. The result was multiple notes created by the rebound after the initial hit. Porting my front head has eliminated this issue as it allows more air to escape rather than bouncing around inside the drum, allowing for a single clear note when burying the beater.This is another perennial topic.
I try not to bury. And I have an actual reason other than personal taste. I have found when listening to recordings of myself when burying the beater, that it results in micro notes in my bass drum. So the beater doesn't hit the head once and stay mute until the next note, it hits the head and faintly buzzes for a few milliseconds afterwards. I can't really see how this does not happen with everyone. You have a resonating head and you touch it with something hard - it is bound to jitter.
It is most pronounced with hard beaters (wood, rubber etc), less of an audible problem with soft beaters.
Having said that, the amount of awesome experienced studio drummers who bury the beater is evenly split with those who don't. So I guess it's up to each individual to decide.