Everytime I try to ‘bury’ the beater, it rebounds and hits the head again. Ergo bass head is too tight to bury it. Drummers keep talking about resonance- but there ain’t any if you bury the beater/ just a thud.Wondering what folks here think about this, among the techniques I'm paying attention to is my kick. Not my strongest aspect but it can be a lot sometimes and I'm looking at it a lot lately. Softened the tension on my springs and that made a bit of a difference and positioned the height of the batter to where I'm feeling better (a little high and back on a fair angle) but I've seen techniques on playing the rebound or burying it and either way isn't bad I think but I'm wondering.
I played flat footed pretty much all my life and switched to heel up last year and I feel comfortable with it but with not the best control but that's coming along. I notice that I do both, bury it on single beats and play the rebound on multiple.
Wondering what thoughts are on this.
Thanks for your replies.
And for Jazz especially small combos in a small venue playing quiet Jazz, less volume and less busy.Depends on both the style and the tuning. If I'm playing swing, Bossa, etc. I'm cranking the head up a little and feathering it heel down. If I'm playing hard rock or metal, I'm tuning way down and pummeling away mercilessly heel up.
I mean business when I play and never bury it. Playing too hard or heavy actually limits the range of sounds you can get.I originally started with rebound and eventually learned to play like I meant business and started to bury it. It helps to have the front head ported. If the front head isn't ported, I don't bury it.
I would have thought that was reason enough to have both techniques in your bag of tricks. Not that I'm very good at burying the beater, but there are certainly times when that is the sound I want.Burying the beater actually changes the sound and tone of the bass drum, just that alone is reason enough not to bury it.
You're talking about one end of the spectrum, I'm talking about the other.I mean business when I play and never bury it. Playing too hard or heavy actually limits the range of sounds you can get.
You'll get more sounds and range of tones from cymbals and drums playing lighter since there's a point where you can't get more out of the cymbal or drum no matter how hard it's played. Sound engineers run into this problem from drummers that play too hard and could explain it better than i am.
That´s quite strange for me to see since I can definitely remember him saying something along these lines in an (MD?) nterview: "I think what has kept me in buisness for all tose years is my right foot. I play heel up and always let the beater come off the head. That gives me a bigger bassdrum sound than most of the other guys"Thanks, I think I got this mixed up: JR often plays heel down, but it looks like even then he buries the beater.
As someone mentioned, it can also be the other way round, you can wind up lifting the heel and still let the beater bounce.
Re: jazz - what semed really strange when I learned about it was that feathering can be done burying the beater. There is a video on Mel Lewis that mentions this. I still can't do it., but it might have merit, you can control the decay of an open drum.
When I studie with Keith Copeland, he used that "heel coming down while not burying the beater" technique. As you say, you release the foot pressure immediately upon impact.gave up and went back to burying the beater when I play heel up.
Then use the same heafs and cut two pieces of fiberglass insulation the same size for each bass, that's how i got the best sound from my old tama double bass set. I was always taught to use the rebound from the sticks and beaters to set up the next stroke.You're talking about one end of the spectrum, I'm talking about the other.
We're also talking about the bass drum, and there's only one sound I want to get from it. Heck, I have two bass drums and I want the same sound from both of them.
I've actually never come across needing that sound and I play over 2,000 songs of many genre. But to each its own.I would have thought that was reason enough to have both techniques in your bag of tricks. Not that I'm very good at burying the beater, but there are certainly times when that is the sound I want.
Nice set dude!