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Has anyone ever refurbished or repaired this style of hoops. Both hoops are pretty nicked up. If so, how did you do it. These are 70's.
 

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@Camaro: The hoop doesn’t look like it’s in bad shape . Depends how far you want to take it . The ones I’m showing are 60’s RB . If you decide to strip them PM me and I’ll give you a step by step instruction and include the primer , paint and clear coat I used . They came out perfect and better then the factory .
 

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@Camaro: The hoop doesn’t look like it’s in bad shape . Depends how far you want to take it . The ones I’m showing are 60’s RB . If you decide to strip them PM me and I’ll give you a step by step instruction and include the primer , paint and clear coat I used . They came out perfect and better then the factory .
Yes I would like to repair. The white cortex strip looks good.
 

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Those look good.
Thanks . The first thing you want to do s tape off the Inlay with 4” strips of blue / frog tape ( you will control the tape lines better with shorter lengths ) . Don’t be temped to use a electric palm sander , hand sand the hoops only . It will take you a little while and patience is required but by hand sanding you will control the evenness of the maple . Use 2” square 100 grit paper folded in half . Do the interior of the hoop first , then the outer flats , then the bearing edges , then the inlay area with the inlay edges last . I did each hoop in a couple of hours . Get all the dust off and use Mineral spirits wiping down entire hoop , it will dry fast . Place the hoop upright between two horses or whatever when finishing , don’t finish coat on the flat . After 20 minutes you can turn the hoop and keep spraying . I start on the inside first and work out . Don’t spray to far up the hoop on the inside or you’ll have runs . (1) 2X Rustoleum Gray or black primer . (2) High Performance Flat Black Rustoleum and 2X Rustoleum Clear Satin . I did 3 coats of clear . Those hoops will take abuse and still look good . Hard finish . Let the coats dry thoroughly for a day in between coats inside . Also , when sanding don’t try and sand the nicks completely out . Look at the picture of my hoop sanded , you’ll see where the claws were . Just sand over them you won’t or will barely see them when you are done . Trying to get them completely out will damage your hoop . Say with the profiles of your bearing edges when sanding , no over sanding .
 

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Thanks . The first thing you want to do s tape off the Inlay with 4” strips of blue / frog tape ( you will control the tape lines better with shorter lengths ) . Don’t be temped to use a electric palm sander , hand sand the hoops only . It will take you a little while and patience is required but by hand sanding you will control the evenness of the maple . Use 2” square 100 grit paper folded in half . Do the interior of the hoop first , then the outer flats , then the bearing edges , then the inlay area with the inlay edges last . I did each hoop in a couple of hours . Get all the dust off and use Mineral spirits wiping down entire hoop , it will dry fast . Place the hoop upright between two horses or whatever when finishing , don’t finish coat on the flat . After 20 minutes you can turn the hoop and keep spraying . I start on the inside first and work out . Don’t spray to far up the hoop on the inside or you’ll have runs . (1) 2X Rustoleum Gray or black primer . (2) High Performance Flat Black Rustoleum and 2X Rustoleum Clear Satin . I did 3 coats of clear . Those hoops will take abuse and still look good . Hard finish . Let the coats dry thoroughly for a day in between coats inside . Also , when sanding don’t try and sand the nicks completely out . Look at the picture of my hoop sanded , you’ll see where the claws were . Just sand over them you won’t or will barely see them when you are done . Trying to get them completely out will damage your hoop . Say with the profiles of your bearing edges when sanding , no over sanding .
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Why do you not finish coat the flat side or did I misunderstand something?
 

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Why do you not finish coat the flat side or did I misunderstand something?
Misunderstood , don’t do any finish coating with the hoop laying on the flat . Also the reason I think it’s a better finish then the factory is that they have to thin out all their finishes running through spray guns . Coming straight out of spray cans it’s thicker .
 

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Misunderstood , don’t do any finish coating with the hoop laying on the flat . Also the reason I think it’s a better finish then the factory is that they have to thin out all their finishes running through spray guns . Coming straight out of spray cans it’s thicker .
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Remove the inlay. Hand sand with 150 then 220 and 320 if needed. I sparay on flat black spray paint - a few coats. Once dry, then I hand rub satin poly. Looks killer.
 

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My recipe...remove inlay, glue cracks if any w/Titebond & clamp overnite, palm sander 220 or so, hand sand 320, paint a few coats of semi-gloss LAQUER (not enamel), re-install inlay w/30nf contact cement (apply w/artist brush), done. Protect from clamps (bass pedal, cowbell/cymbal clamps, etc) with Velcro patch.
 

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My recipe...remove inlay, glue cracks if any w/Titebond & clamp overnite, palm sander 220 or so, hand sand 320, paint a few coats of semi-gloss LAQUER (not enamel), re-install inlay w/30nf contact cement (apply w/artist brush), done. Protect from clamps (bass pedal, cowbell/cymbal clamps, etc) with Velcro patch.
Looks good.
 

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Looks good.
Camaro....those were from my first drumkit, early 60's Kent, still in the family today and were in storage for 40+ years and in various stages of disrepair. Brought 'em back to life a while back, mostly heavy disassembly, cleanup and recut edges....some additional pics are here of the process, may help you some...

 

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Looks good. I'm doing same thing with my 70's. Going to sell when finished.
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In a related story.......

I have a 22 in BD shell (black wrap). No intention to use it.....just one of those Pearl made entry level ones - either luan or basswood. Kept it for my specific idea.....

I have a real good router table now. Intended on buying or even making one for a long time. One sorta fell into my hands.....friend gifted one to me when he bought a cabinet company but then decided to phase it out of comission.

Eventually/someday I am going to cut sleeves off it and attempt to make some hoops for 20 in BDs. I am an exclusive 20in BD player.

I will have to research and experiment various methods/joint types.
 

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I wish I had a table saw...
...I envision how many 16" kick drum
hoops I could cut from my extra
16" generic floor tom.
For my 16" kick drum, of course.
 
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