I'm talking about the regular A (same series as Sweet Ride). It's crashable, has a good blend of wash and definition, and a good bell. Others may have more wash, more definition or crashability, but this is the standard jack-of-all-trades ride in my opinion.The modern A would be the avedis line with only his signature logo on the cymbal top? Are those crashable? I wonder how it compares to 21” A sweet ride.
For some reason I don’t like to have mix of brands in my cymbal setup, although if you just go for sound it shouldn’t matter.Does it have to be Zildjian?
My paiste 20" medium ride would be "perfect" for all around styles if you decided on 20"
Even or maybe better....
my 20" medium light
Thanks for your input. I like the sound of A sweet rides.I regularly use a 23" A Sweet ride and I can assure you that the Sweet Rides have plenty of definition for use in playing jazz. They are a little brighter than your usual jazz cymbal but still really nice.
If you are patient you can certainly get a great used K Con 22" Medium in the 2650-2800 range that meets your criteria and can be used for just about anything. I've never paid more than $350 for a used 22" K Con.
So yeah: My two general purpose Zildjian rides are the 23" Sweet and the 22" K Con Medium, both of which I've had for a couple years at this point.
I can agree with that. But it will still do the job for most of us. I think the K Custom Dark ride does it better though. If you like the brightness of the A's though, you'll be ok with the A Sweet Rides.I read in pearldrummersforum that some say 21” A sweet ride is a bit washy and doesn’t have very good stick definition, is this true? I will play jazz using this cymbal so I need it to have good stick definition.
I like the plain medium better. But then again, I much prefer vintage A rides over new ones. I don’t understand why people sleep on some of the fantastic vintage As.I read in pearldrummersforum that some say 21” A sweet ride is a bit washy and doesn’t have very good stick definition, is this true? I will play jazz using this cymbal so I need it to have good stick definition.
It‘s all a matter of taste, but I‘d say you need a lower-volume, balanced sound with a good deal of wash. Not a crash-type high wash, but a legato element as opposed to Staccato. Something like the Session ride would be much too penetrating and pingy on your standard jazz gig. Many cymbals these days seem amped up, large bell etc., you don‘t want that for jazz. The 21“ Mel Type would be a good example of a quieter ride, although some are too washy even at low volume. The A medium is rather thin these days, which is nice for quieter playing. Most demos are played rather hard, take this into consideration.I will play jazz using this cymbal so I need it to have good stick definition.