Billy Hart with Charles Lloyd 1998

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They had a quartet with Anders Jormin (bass) that recorded and toured in the mid-90s, that's when I saw them. Great to see almost the same band on video now.

Another one: 1995 Charles Lloyd with Idris Muhammad:

 

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I have been fascinated with his cymbal sound,rides almost too washy/crashy, at different timbres/pitches. I find this quote of Billy's inspiring, about making the listener feel nature, wind and rain, through music:

The Great Jazz Drummers

(Percussion). The Great Jazz Drummers is an excellent reference for any drummer or jazz enthusiast. It features biographies and photos of 62 influential drummers, as well as a CD featuring 16 artists to demonstrate the gradual progression of jazz drumming through seven decades.

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Member @Base recalls the two 20" being a Pre-Aged and an (IAK? EAK?) K Light ride. Any idea, judging by the video above, what the weights could have been?

Instead of hunting the models mentioned above (I do own a heavier Pre-Aged), I'm thinking about setting up two different cymbals that to my ears sound similar: for the lower sound an Agop Trad. Jazz, which at 17something gram is crazy thin/washy compared to what I've played up to now. Might even add a sizzle chain, later maybe rivets. For the higher sound, a Dream Contact crash ride might be closest, or a Mehmet Trad. Light. Might add a Dream Bliss on the far right, for an extra-low sound. Sounds below.

When the above band toured, in the mid-90s, I was just getting into jazz more seriously. I loved the sound, but there were no cymbals like that in any stores, only heavy rides and smallish crashes. I'm grateful to have been able to find a palette of sounds like this in recent years.

https://soundcloud.com/seb234%2Fsets%2Flight-crash-rides

 

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One of my all-time favorite jazz groups!
I just received a package of CDs (!) of this band (Lloyd, Stenson, Jormin, Hart), some live concert soundboard recordings 1993/1994. I guess they have been around in bootleg trader's circles as flac etc., I decided to just order the CDs.

 

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A video that somehow didn't come up in searches: 2002, another band, with Geri Allen and Robert Hurst.

 

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