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To my ear, the Tama Silverstar Bop outfits replicate that Max Roach be-bop tone authentically.
Thin 100% birch shells in true Bop sizes: 8x12, 14x14, 14x18.
Kick drum includes a built-in riser.

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I think Tama discontinued these jazz kits, but some may be found in the used market.
 

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If you’re interested in having a smaller footprint on stage, you might want to wait for the Tama Neo Mod kits to come out. Bass drum is 10 x 20. https://www.tama.com/usa/products/detail/superstar_classic_neomod_drumkit.html
These totally fit what I like in a small kit! You could probably fit the 7"x12" tom and 9"x14" floor tom with its legs on in a 16 floor tom case. It would be nice if Tama makes a gig bag for the 10"x20" bass drum. Or one could always fit the kick and cymbals into a 14 x 20 case and have 2 drum cases & a hardware case in all to shlep.
 

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I am a vintage guy but just got a Pearl Decade maple bop set that has standard bop sizes and am very impressed . I am not even a Pearl guy but they sound great and quality is excellent . You can usually find them cheap on eBay which is where mine came from which was $399 plus shipping minus the snare brand new .
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I'm thinking of getting one for smaller venues where I don't have room for my Mapex kit. I've seen the little four piece Getsch that a local drummer has that looks really cool, but i'm curious to see what else is out there. Photos and ideas of price would be appreciated as well.
If you like the sizes you're using now, consider a "Woofer" type bass drum instead.
It allows you to fit on smaller stages (as BD depth is typically the factor that allows you to setup comfortably on stage, or teeter on the edge).
I have a 22x8 BD and it works great. You really don't lose very much sound, compared to a 22x16 or 18.
The main difference is you loose a lot of the boominess (so not as much muffling needs to be used).
Makes the drum much less clumsy to haul around too.
...anyway, something to consider...

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Second the Sonor Bop kits and now that they have been replaced with AQ2 they show up cheap on the used market. Snare is the weak link
 

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Sold my Hipgig a while ago. Been wanting a smaller kit again. Threw these orphans together. 20” WFL . 10 & 13” Gretsch. HipGig on steroids!
 

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I have a Tama Ltd Edition Silverstar 4 Pc in mint condition for sale.
See my post in For Sale section
 

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Big fan of the Breakbeats. I bought mine for the band's practice space this summer. I get tons of compliments on the way this little kit sounds. It looks to be 100% poplar, which isn't a terrible wood for making drums. I put a little Atlas arm on mine, and it's good n' portable. FWIW, these "micro" kits don't really save very much space on stages vs. a 13/16/24. A few inches, maybe.

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I like the idea of carrying a smaller bass drum to rock,pop & wedding gigs but i'd imagine an 18" bass drum would struggle and that a 20" is much more versatile, anyone found an 18 that can do it all ?
 
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I like the idea of carrying a smaller bass drum to rock,pop & wedding gigs but i'd imagine an 18" bass drum would struggle and that a 20" is much more versatile, anyone found an 18 that can do it all ?

I have come to the conclusion after owning many 18” bass drums that I just don’t like them regardless of what genre I am playing them . A 20” bass drum to my ear is the perfect bass drum . You can tune a 20” up to a pitch like an 18” but an 18” cannot be tuned down like a 20” can ( at least none that I have owned ). There are people that swear by 18” bass drums and so really tried to like the ones I owned but not for me anymore .
 

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My Sawtooth Bop kit in action a few nights ago. My snare is a Ludwig LM-402. I love this little kit. The bass drum sounds fantastic thanks to the Aquarian SK II head.
 

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I have come to the conclusion after owning many 18” bass drums that I just don’t like them regardless of what genre I am playing them . A 20” bass drum to my ear is the perfect bass drum . You can tune a 20” up to a pitch like an 18” but an 18” cannot be tuned down like a 20” can ( at least none that I have owned ). There are people that swear by 18” bass drums and so really tried to like the ones I owned but not for me anymore .
No doubt you've tried different head combinations, Emad, PS3, SK-II type heads ?
 

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Here's my Gretsch "bop" kit. I bought some USA custom square badge drums (8, 10, 12, and 15) used. The "bass" drum is the 15". It projects well. The batter head is a clear Remo Pinstripe. The snare is a Pacific Bronze 4x14. I've had jam sessions with fairly loud instruments even and this sounds great. Is it as loud as an 18" or 22" bass? Probably not, does not move as much air, but I bet if it were mic'd with a good PA it would sound great. BTW when another drummer friend came over I decided to tape a pad on it to protect the "tom-bass" head. The cradle is home-made. It works with any size drum from 14" to 18".

You'd be surprised how open and nice the smaller toms, and the 12" "floor" tom sound. Very full, and definitely low enough.

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I have an older Taiwanese made Gretsch Catalina Club kit (CC-J484-COS) in a stunning Copper Sparkle wrap that I picked up off CL a few years ago and have played them to death! I dont actually have them tuned higher for bop but lower for pop! I just wanted them for the small footprint in tight situations and they work really well. Good luck with what ever you choose and I hope you find just the right one for you.

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I have come to the conclusion after owning many 18” bass drums that I just don’t like them regardless of what genre I am playing them . A 20” bass drum to my ear is the perfect bass drum . You can tune a 20” up to a pitch like an 18” but an 18” cannot be tuned down like a 20” can ( at least none that I have owned ). There are people that swear by 18” bass drums and so really tried to like the ones I owned but not for me anymore .
That is my story in a nutshell. While I like the sound of an 18", it just doesn't put out the volume I want with the music I play. I've gone through 4 bop sets in all (3 of them heavy beech shells), and with every one the snare and toms practically swallowed it up. They were okay when mic'd, but unmic'd? Not so good in my experience.
 


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