I own a couple Masters Series cymbals a 19,20, 22 not the Vintage line just straight Masters Series. I have an 18 on the way that I just picked up from eBay should have been here yesterday but didn't arrive. The 18 and 19 have regular dark ink brand logos and size info but the words " Masters Series" are in white ink. I've owned the 19 for about 8 years now...none were bought new. Does anyone know when the white logo cymbals were made approximately? I'm hearing they're the original run etc....but nobody can prove that to me. I like their sound so I'm not looking to sell just curious as to what I have .... I'll try to get to the shed today and put up a pic or two Thanks in advance