Huh. Yeah. Weird. It's like the trad and sync cymbals I've played and heard only have a tiny little bit of that quality in them. And that's how I'd best describe "the Bosphorus sound".I said something almost identical to this when I gigged my 21" Master Vintage over a stretch. I couldn't believe how quiet it was, and I typically play in a trio setting in restaurants and bars. It reminded me of a toy cymbal ("Aw, this is cute!"). I found myself trying to coax out sounds that did not exist: no felt, played more aggressively, etc. Ultimately, it had to come off of the stand so that a legitimate cymbal could go up.