Bottom hi-hat cymbal as a Ride?

singleordoubleheads

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Has anyone ever tried this here? The only time I ever saw it was in 1991 I saw Marty Stewart in concert and his drummer had what appeared to me a 14 or 15 inch very heavy cymbal as his only Ride. I came to the conclusion it had to have been a heavy Bottom because it was VERY pingy. I have actually considered this myself for some possible acoustic gigs I may have coming up later this year. I don't remember his name but he was pretty young and I heard he was the grandson of Kitty Wells.
 

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When I was putting together a "tiny" set for my young kid, I set it up this way. Old 15" HH bottom as a ride. Sounded horribly high-pitched and pingy. He didn't care - he was four. ;)
 

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I actually have several different pairs of hats to choose from and it's amazing how varied the sounds are--some lower pitched, others higher, some more ringy than others as well. It just may work for a low volume gig tho
 

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Steve Jordan used a pretty small ride cymbal in these chuck berry clips from 1986, there are more on youtube. Could be a bottom hi-hat but I know paiste used to make at least 16” ride cymbals
That's one of my all-time favorite movies and yet I somehow had forgotten about Steve's tiny cymbals in it--good call!
 

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Sure have....heck I try all of my cymbals in different contexts.....ya never know....
As per the question....a little too high pitched and pingy generally but good if the music calls for this sound.
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I've thought about it. It would sound terrible though. The bottom HH cymbal is always there, and I sometimes strike it as an effect. But I wouldn't want to use it as a main sound.

That being said, I have an old K Constantinople that's around 14.5" and almost 1600g. It's pingy, dark, and super low-pitched. It would be fun to try in a ride application.
 

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I did it about 20 years ago when I played "drum & bass" music. Worked well at emulating a speed up ride.
 

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I have a Sabian HH Fusion Bottom that weighs more than many 20" jazz rides lol. It sounds like a Church bell, mega-pingy and cutting. Haven't weighed it, but must be 1600 g.
 

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Australian jazz drumming legend Ted Vining is not averse to riding simple patterns from underneath on his bottom hat (in the open position of course) - it’s just part of his sonic palette: for those unaware, Ted is an artistic genius at painting with sound with great finesse, his entire kit being conceived as a unified instrument. (Incidentally he now believes he is at the height of his creative powers as a musician - and he is directing a jazz festival which opens in Hobart soon too, “Jazzamanca” where he’s playing in at least 2 bands: “Blow” and the “Ted Vining Trio”.)
 
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