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Anybody have one / tried one? I just received a Pearl Throne Thumper, hopefully trying it out tomorrow. I love the idea of cutting most of the bass drum out of my drum monitor and just relying on feeling it.
 

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The casino I play at has the buttkicker, (they have a huge system) I tried it and it actually made me feel nauseous. So for me its thumbs down. I bring my own round throne as I can't even get used to their DW tractor seat throne.
 

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Ok, lemme see if I get this straight... Pearl invented a device that allows you to physically feel your bass drum beats - through the seat - in your butt? Correct? Every time you hit the bass drum the device taps you on your kiester... if that's so, all I can say is; Freud would have had a field day with this one... the comedy material this invention inspires practically writes itself. lol


I must really be getting old. This new device is just a little over the top (or should I say, under the bottom,) for me. I'd rather hear my bass drum, (any day) than kick my own a*s while I'm playing. What was Pearl thinking?


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i have practiced and played so long with earplugs and headphones that blocked out all the sound from my drums when i play its a total shocker when i do hear them. when you practice pay attention to how hard you hit and kick with minimal ear plugs and after a while you can develope a consistant force. i have listened to myself after recording gigs and band practice over the years and the sound is very consistant. i read an article back in the early 80's about compressor/limiters on drum mics due to inconsistant hits. i decided to learn to play with a consistant force. i hit light when i need to hard hard when i need to. its kinda like speed shifting the 4 speed trans in my mustang when racing. i keep an eye on the tach and really dont think about the right hand left foot split second coordination for a super fast no grind shift. it just takes concentration and practice and then its second nature. sorta like sitting down and playing boom dot boom boom dot and not really thinking about it.
 

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They're made to give the feeling back for guys using in ear monitors. Drummers noticed years ago, that they were used to hearing and feeling the kick from the stage monitors. In ear monitors take that away, these shakers add the feeling back...
 

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They're made to give the feeling back for guys using in ear monitors. Drummers noticed years ago, that they were used to hearing and feeling the kick from the stage monitors. In ear monitors take that away, these shakers add the feeling back...
i never used ear monitors and never ran my drums through my monitors. i use 2 home built monitors with a 12" in each cabnet no horn. this time around i am using 1 caire 12ndh4 in each powered by one qsc 3500 in bridged mono pumping out 1100 watts. the ciares are rated at 500 watts each into 4 ohms. i never turn them up. the only instrument thats in my monitors is the guitar and voacls. my drums are not in any of the stage monitors. everyone hears me just fine. i could never figure out why one would want his instrument in his monitor when hes either behind it or in front of the amp turned to 11.
 

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They're made to give the feeling back for guys using in ear monitors. Drummers noticed years ago, that they were used to hearing and feeling the kick from the stage monitors. In ear monitors take that away, these shakers add the feeling back...
i never used ear monitors and never ran my drums through my monitors. i use 2 home built monitors with a 12" in each cabnet no horn. this time around i am using 1 caire 12ndh4 in each powered by one qsc 3500 in bridged mono pumping out 1100 watts. the ciares are rated at 500 watts each into 4 ohms. i never turn them up. the only instrument thats in my monitors is the guitar and voacls. my drums are not in any of the stage monitors. everyone hears me just fine. i could never figure out why one would want his instrument in his monitor when hes either behind it or in front of the amp turned to 11.
They're obviously not for everyone...
 

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I've been using the Buttkicker for over 7 years, and it's the most important piece of non-drum gear I have. It's not a shaker at all, it's a piston housed in liquid and literally kicks you, with complete dynamics. I've tried others, and nothing comes close. I understand how those who haven't tried one - a good one that is - can misinterpret what it does or think that it's not efficient, but once they do, they're hooked.

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I would love to try one, but if I recall they are well north of $500 for the rig. I just can't bring myself to spend that kind of $$$$ without trying one.
 

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Got the lend of one for a couple of gigs. Didn't like it at all, made me feel sick and unbalanced, even after tunrning it down a lot. I can feel the Bass drum through my leg from the Pedal.....

Not for me I'm afraid.

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I used a butt thumper, which was/is a speaker bolted underneath the chair aiming up. And, the amp, which cost a few hundred bucks! It functioned fine. A little volume goes a long way with those.
 

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Ok, lemme see if I get this straight... Pearl invented a device that allows you to physically feel your bass drum beats - through the seat - in your butt? Correct? Every time you hit the bass drum the device taps you on your kiester... if that's so, all I can say is; Freud would have had a field day with this one... the comedy material this invention inspires practically writes itself. lol


I must really be getting old. This new device is just a little over the top (or should I say, under the bottom,) for me. I'd rather hear my bass drum, (any day) than kick my own a*s while I'm playing. What was Pearl thinking?


John
Pearl didn't invent it. . .the idea has been around for a long time. It's actually pretty effective but I didn't find it worth dragging the extra weight around.
 

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Not for me I'm afraid.
I agree, they're not for everyone, or every situation. Obviously on a gig where you wouldn't have monitors anyway, you wouldn't need or want a Buttkicker (I do plenty of those kind of gigs in L.A. and don't miss it at all.) But for small theaters to sheds and arenas, where good monitoring is a crucial part of performing well, hearing and feeling the kick becomes a real necessity, and often, regular monitors just don't provide enough usable kick. That's where the Buttkicker more than compensates.

There's been some discussion about the Bum Chum out of England, and based on its specs I'd say it's the only possible rival, although I haven't tried it myself. I have tried several shakers & thumpers over the last 15+ years, and they fall far short of the Buttkicker. Even my previous cannister throne with 12" Cerwin driver wasn't nearly as efficient as the Buttkicker.

As for the Pearl unit, I tried two of them at NAMM - where it should have been performing at its best - and was not impressed. It's definitely not an alternative for the Buttkicker.

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Used a Buttkicker with in ear for years. Love the feedback when you can't hear the kick! Never tried any of the others, so I can't comment. The Buttkicker is a solid device, being both durable and effective! Might not be for everyone, so if you can try it first before you lay out the cash, go for it. PS. it weights a ton (more if you have two), so either work on your bi-ceps or get a drum tech.
 

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I haven't tried the Buttkicker but I did get to set up my Pearl Throne Thumper today for about 5 minutes and I'm happy with it, does exactly what it should do. Tactile feedback from your bass drum is a whole new world.
 

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I used the Bum Chum at the London Drum Show, and would love to own one. Problem is, I do a lot of gigs either unmiked, or with borrowed gear, it's be a real pain to use it. I'd love to have it in the studio or just for home practice, it really makes you aware of what's going on with your feet.
 

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Hey guys, the Pearl unit was actually designed with the help of the company that makes the Buttkicker models too. Just noticed that and thought I'd pass it along. Looks like they work differently though.

http://www.thebuttkicker.com/musicians/index.htm
 

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Hey guys, the Pearl unit was actually designed with the help of the company that makes the Buttkicker models too. Just noticed that and thought I'd pass it along. Looks like they work differently though.
They probably work the same (piston inside the housing), but I imagine the specs are quite different, as is the implementation; a unit attached to the throne's post is not anywhere near as effective as one attached to the seat itself.

I tried the Pearl unit at NAMM, I'm really surprised they went down that road - an old-school 'shaker' attached to the hardware. Those are fine if you like rumble, such as for gaming at the computer, but not so good for a defined kick. And that's the point of any monitoring set-up, to be able to determine exactly what you're playing.

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