Buyer Beware - Cheap Aluminum Hoops

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Just wanted to give the gang a heads up to not purchase certain cheap aluminum drum hoops from eBay (LINK). I was not expecting much, but thought I would give a try knowing they may be duds, and they are.

Issues:
  1. Received two snare side hoops (instead of one batter, one reso)
  2. Finish is flaking
  3. The snare cut outs are very rough, so will wear through any snare cord over time
  4. [and the best one] Some of the rod holes are not drilled through!
 

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I have had 3 or 4 sets of these now. The only issue I've had is one hole wasn't drilled all the way out. A simple screwdriver punch fixed that.

The snare chord holes are indeed rough. I use ribbon, and haven't noticed anything negative..... Yet.

Otherwise, they've been very good for me. I *could* see them flaking over time though.

These are from China you got right? I'd contact them and explain you didn't get what you paid for.
 

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These are from China you got right? I'd contact them and explain you didn't get what you paid for.
Yeah, from China (the link is in my post). I've already started the return process, but they were so cheap I don't care.

I'm glad they worked for you, if it was just the holes (1 on one hoop, 3 on the other), I would just drill them out (can't punch through these). But the holes, plus all the other issues was too much for me to let it go without the gang knowing.
 

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Yeah, from China (the link is in my post). I've already started the return process, but they were so cheap I don't care.

I'm glad they worked for you, if it was just the holes (1 on one hoop, 3 on the other), I would just drill them out (can't punch through these). But the holes, plus all the other issues was too much for me to let it go without the gang knowing.
Definitely a gamble on these. Good info for others!
 

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I’ve had mine from them for about two years now. No problems at all
 

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I bought two sets.
First set was perfect.
Second set had the rough spots and non-drilled hole I had to punch thru. I fixed it and both sets are doing the job like they're supposed to.
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I would expect cheap plating and rough snare gates, but no holes drilled???
I knew a guy who was building disc wheels for bicycles. His wheel was very cheap compared to others because the hub was manufactured a certain way that made it easy to attach AND more dependable. Of course one of the ways he also saved money was that his hub supplier was in China.

The same plant will turn out seconds on command as the highest first quality. Business is done the following way: you do everything through an “agent” of the factory who is “independent”. Give them more money than they want, they will either finish the item better or give you more. When they want more money, they will do things like machine stuff backwards. So you have to go back to the “agent” and renegotiate the whole deal.

This sounds like a side job of a factory’s agent. And the factory is tired of doing these things for the agent.
 

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I think what this comes down to in the end is:

You get what you pay for.

At best you're buying overruns, but it’s more likely you're getting rejects. It's like a trip to the Drum Parts Casino.
 

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I bought these and mine were fine. If you look closely it's not pristine but I didn't expect that for the price.
 

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I think what this comes down to in the end is:

You get what you pay for.

At best you're buying overruns, but it’s more likely you're getting rejects. It's like a trip to the Drum Parts Casino.
The ol’ John Arbuckle business principle
 

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I have seen these offered in a 10 lug.... anybody know where I can get them in an 8 lug config?
 

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I have seen these offered in a 10 lug.... anybody know where I can get them in an 8 lug config?
Nowhere. Not made.
I would expect cheap plating and rough snare gates, but no holes drilled???
Holes are drilled. It's the excess chrome plating that isn't punched through sometimes. A punch or even a pencil will accomplish it.
 

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I've bought about 5 or 6 pairs ,no issues other than the excess fleshing of the holes and they could use a cleaning with a cloth.
FYI I put a set in the dishwasher and they are quite bright and shiny now.
 

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I knew a guy who was building disc wheels for bicycles. His wheel was very cheap compared to others because the hub was manufactured a certain way that made it easy to attach AND more dependable. Of course one of the ways he also saved money was that his hub supplier was in China.

The same plant will turn out seconds on command as the highest first quality. Business is done the following way: you do everything through an “agent” of the factory who is “independent”. Give them more money than they want, they will either finish the item better or give you more. When they want more money, they will do things like machine stuff backwards. So you have to go back to the “agent” and renegotiate the whole deal.

This sounds like a side job of a factory’s agent. And the factory is tired of doing these things for the agent.
Conjecture!
 


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