Keep an eye out on eBay, couple sellers selling aluminum die cast snare hoops for way cheaper direct from China. I have a set. Not finished as cleanly as the Yamaha’s, but sound the same.What do I think of the Yamaha aluminum hoops? They're nice, but way overpriced. I'd probably opt for them on all my snares if they were $50 each. The Ludwig (or any zinc version) probably dampen certain harmonic frequencies more though, if that's what you're looking for.