Complete my Paiste setup with a Ride

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I'm putting together a set of mixed Paistes and have a hole in the ride position.

Here's what will fill the rest of the puzzle...

15 DE hats
18 Full crash
20 Twenty Light ride (as crash)
20 Trad Med Light Swish

A good point @shiek_yerbouti made was to be cognizant of the relationship b/w the ride choice and DE hats.
I have a couple models in mind but would love to hear any opinions before sharing what I've been looking at.

I appreciate the input in advance. Thanks!
 

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You might prefer something heavier. I have a 22 ME and I don’t think it would work in your set up. Nor a 602.

Probably a DE Mark 2
 

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You might prefer something heavier. I have a 22 ME and I don’t think it would work in your set up. Nor a 602.

Probably a DE Mark 2
Out of curiosity, is it the hats or the 20" Twenty Light ride (crash) that's eliminating so many of the ride choices? I.e. if the 20" ride wasn't in the setup, would that allow the ME or 602 to work? Thanks!
 

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Out of curiosity, is it the hats or the 20" Twenty Light ride (crash) that's eliminating so many of the ride choices? I.e. if the 20" ride wasn't in the setup, would that allow the ME or 602 to work? Thanks!
Yes... the size and sonic width/weight of that as a crash says you need a heavier and more pronounced ride, at least to me and probably others here. Get the same size ( 20") crash ( Masers Dark/602/Big Beat/ thats thinner or washier and you can go with a thinner 22 ..
 

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I think a masters deep ride would honestly be perfect in this mix.
I've wondered about this one, too. Seems to be a logical fit -- do you have experience playing it? I've been lingering around the Paiste Soundroom and have the 24 Deep, 24 GB, 22 DE MKII, 22/24 Big Beat, 22 Dark Crisp, and 22 ME + Classic. They all sound pretty good with the DE hats and 18 Full Crash. Everything sounds great -- I'm temporarily obsessing about this - thanks again for any and all input!
 

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Yes... the size and sonic width/weight of that as a crash says you need a heavier and more pronounced ride, at least to me and probably others here. Get the same size ( 20") crash ( Masers Dark/602/Big Beat/ thats thinner or washier and you can go with a thinner 22 ..
Perfect. Thank you. The Twenty Light has simply been the choice as I got a great deal on it years ago and is currently in my bag. This good advice.
 

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Perfect. Thank you. The Twenty Light has simply been the choice as I got a great deal on it years ago and is currently in my bag. This good advice.
A 24 ride could work too. It’s not something I would choose but a lot of folks like them. Also, if you’re in a serious guitar driven rock situation you can go with 2002’s. Classic sound , can’t go wrong there. But bright for sure
 

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Agree on 2002 Ride. The DE hats have a pretty bright attack. I never got to try mine with the 22" 2002 Ride that I had, but I believe that combo would work well.
 

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The 22” dark energy mkII is a great choice. Very articulated stick.

Another really great option is the 2002 24” big ride. Musical, light for its size. Crashable, but with great body and presence. A bell to die for (in the 2002 series).
 

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I will also suggest the DE MKII 22". Also, if you are looking for a more lively cymbal, the ME 24" Ride is great. Both of these rides will cover about any style & are very dynamic.
 

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Moonman,
IMHO, your biggest challenge here is trying to make a cohesive unit using two very different "crashes". The 18" Signature Full Crash is bright and crisp with that Paiste "shimmer", whereas the 20" Twenty Light Ride is dark and trashy. The line that best marries these qualities is probably the Dark Energy. But, how do you use your ride? Are crash accents important to you? Do you play the bell much? Are you looking for a wall of sound, or something with more precision?
 

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Moonman,
IMHO, your biggest challenge here is trying to make a cohesive unit using two very different "crashes". The 18" Signature Full Crash is bright and crisp with that Paiste "shimmer", whereas the 20" Twenty Light Ride is dark and trashy. The line that best marries these qualities is probably the Dark Energy. But, how do you use your ride? Are crash accents important to you? Do you play the bell much? Are you looking for a wall of sound, or something with more precision?
These are great questions you bring up @skelt101. I could tell something was off (hoped it was the 20 crash, but was worried it could be the hats) based on the feedback I've received, but this is super clear and is helpful. The Twenty Light Ride (crash) has really been by convenience and I should probably sell it or set it aside for this. I'm going to ponder your questions and report back after i've answered them. I appreciate all the input guidance everyone has contributed.
 
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