Drumming Behind Plexi Glass 2

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Hi everyone, I started a thread about playing behind Plexi Glass a few days ago. Heres a closer look of a different gig at the same venue. You might notice how light I was hitting the cymbals because the sound was bouncing back so bad I could barely hear the 18'' monitor which was very loud. I guess this is a good way to adapt, but it prevents me from playing comfortably and my best.
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Wait, there were drums in that video????
 

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I'd suggest ear protection at the least, but blackout sunglasses might help you focus better...
 

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With a sound crew, I don't have the option of in ears. I believe they are non powered anyway so couldn't plug in right?
 

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robthetimekeeper said:
Spam. Did not watch.
Not really. Just a great way to start the New Year. Admittedly, I didn't notice any plexiglass screens or drums in the video, but I thank the OP all the same. Outstanding view. This is one of the few gigs a lot of drummers might actually pay to play. :)
 

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I use in ears as much as i can, fortunatly as drummers we sit in the same spot so, we can use cheap headphones lined out to a small mixer at our side lined out from the main board. Ive been doing it for years.

Actually I line out to a 2 channel mixer, one channel is my monitor, the other channel is a click. Works great.
 

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You have the best view in the house.

That said - I HATE playing in the fishbowl. Make the cymbals sound so loud and brittle it's just impossible to play. MOST of the time it's a pacifier for incompetent sound people or incompetent drummers that play too loud IMO.
 

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The_SupraPhonic said:
With a sound crew, I don't have the option of in ears. I believe they are non powered anyway so couldn't plug in right?
I'm very confused with this statement for two reasons: 1) A sound crew doesn't eliminate the option of using IEMs. Any competent engineer will prefer that you use IEMs since minimizing stage volume greatly cleans up the FOH sound. 2) You immediately followed up this post with another post saying you use IEMs as much as you can and make clear that you know how to hook into the system.

That is unless you meant to write that the sound crew said they will not or do not have the option to run a separate aux channel for you.
 

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TomR, when we do our own sound in clubs i line out to a little 2 channel mixer, at that particular casino we used wedges. Theres more that i don't wanna get into but there was no option to use in ears there.
 

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I can definitely see problems drumming with that setup...............

1) I second the sunglasses......cheap and black......
2) How about a monitor behind you? If the shields are keeping your sounds in, I would think it is keeping outside sounds out.........

Do your best with what you've got.........I know it can be tough.........just focus on end result.........
 

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What cymbals are you using? Cymbal sizes, weights, and pitches can definitely make a difference. Darker, lower pitched cymbals work better for me when there's a problem with the cymbals getting in the way of the vocals.
 

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The_SupraPhonic said:
Thanks guys, they all the cymbals were Paiste 2002.
I might get flamed for this, but I think that's part of the problem. I don't think anyone would disagree that 2002's are very bright cymbals. Obviously great cymbals, but not appropriate for all situations.
 

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I played in a fish bowl filling in for a night with a band and hated it. It completely changed the sound of my
drums and cymbals. Even though I'm primarily a rock drummer, I still know dynamics and feel for the song and situation and that shield totally throw me off. I'm used to hearing the rest of the band and not relying on
monitors and it felt very strange. Kind of like being on an island by yourself. Definitely changed the way I played that night. Very uncomfortable.
 

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OT...This reminds me of the time my wife came home and I was watching an Angelina Jolie movie on mute...You really didn't need to hear anything. The visual gave you 100% of what was needed.
 

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