Extreme Sympathetic Snare Buzz With Every Drum

[snappy]

Yamaha Maple Custom
Every tom and even the Bass Drum sets off significant snare buzz that lasts the duration of the drum being hit.
--Tried different snare drums
(3 maples, bronze and lm400)
--Different snare head tuning
--Different snare wires
--Different snare wire tension
--Different drum heads
(Clear ambassadors then
Coated ambassadors)
--Adjusting the tom batter tuning and the Tom reso tuning.
No discernible difference.

Seems like there is talk about, for example, Camco maple drums being very resonant so someone with a set like that may have run across this problem on some level.
The song to be recorded has an important melodic tom part and the toms are singing beautifully but the snare buzz is dramatic and unacceptable.
Zero rings nor moongel does anything to fix it
...Sure a different kit will make a difference (birch/thinner maple shells, etc.)
BUT
any suggestions of what can be done to stick with this thick maple shelled kit?

If this is an issue that you have never come across (the solutions I've tried
not working- done everything possible)then maybe
it could be:
small room with sound proofing/cancelling is being employed on walls and ceiling but the snare is exactly in the middle of the room. It may be possible the toms/bass drum soundwaves are bouncing around and wreaking havoc as they meet back at the snare that is in the crosshairs....

 

[Rock Salad]

Move the drums to a different spot in the room?

 

[snappy]

Move the drums to a different spot in the room?

Thanks.
Certainly have considered it.
Word has it with 2 overhead mics you want the snare in the middle of the room to prevent as much phasing between the two mics as possible. Equal distance from one side of the kit to another helps with the sound bouncing off the walls.
It was only a hunch when I brought up the snare placement/room size, etc at the end of my post.
The small room aint ideal but thats the case.
...Started using StarClassic maple and its made a big difference, which is ok for the other songs, (but the one I mentioned begs for the Maple Custom tone) so it looks as though the placement of the drums may not be the problem.
But it then again it might.

 

[jptrickster]

Might be time to crank up that reso head on the snare and tighten up on the wires. That would be my first move.

 

[JazzDrumGuy]

Those are nice drums. Sounds like a snare drum issue.....see JP's advice. I'd also tighten the top head.

 

[shuffle]

Might be time to crank up that reso head on the snare and tighten up on the wires. That would be my first move.

I scream the snareside,kiss the wires.

 

[dsop]

Make sure the snare side head is surprisingly tight, and that the batter head is pitched at least a minor third above the highest tom.

 

[mark2456]

You could just sell me those no count Maple Custom drums and buy something else

 

[JDA]

Put a rubber mat or rug under the snare drum stand..that'll make it worse..scratch that.
Maybe not grab the front floor mat out of the car/truck and try it.
maybe there's a runner no one's using put it under the set or snare

 

[snappy]

Put a rubber mat or rug under the snare drum stand..that'll make it worse..scratch that.
Maybe not grab the front floor mat out of the car/truck and try it.
maybe there's a runner no one's using put it under the set or snare

Your 3 other posts which you deleted...
re: putting a lamp chain on the snare then hitting a drum to see if it moves...
were better

 

[jmato]

Can you record the drums in parts? Do the tom parts separately, with the snare off.

 

[JDA]

Your 3 other posts which got removed...
re: putting a lamp chain on the snare then hitting a drum to see if it moves
showed more imagination.
C'mon now

My Posts are deleted By Me Snappy. I get too funny and edit myself sometimes. Ok. All the time. TRY the Mat.

 

[Toast Tee]

Make sure the snare side head is surprisingly tight, and that the batter head is pitched at least a minor third above the highest tom

I've had this too from time, to time.
/QUOTE]4ths, and especially octives will cause crazy snare buzz. Have you changed your tuning changed since this started?

 

[Toast Tee]

That was odd. My text ended up in the quote.
Anyway...4ths, and especially octives will cause crazy snare buzz. Have you changed your tuning changed since this started?[

 

[snappy]

That was a Good one wasn't it..

If you thought so why did you delete it?

My Posts are deleted By Me Snappy. I get too funny and edit myself sometimes. Ok. All the time. TRY the Mat.

I just got back from the lamp chain store after you giving your sage advice.
All ready to test it out and now you chain'd your mind?
(I appreciate you letting me know you it was you that deleted your comments from an account which only you have the password to).

You are a good sport and have a good sense of humor

 

[JDA]

Ok two things. Did the chain work? Or isolate whether it's the top or bottom head (that was the-not entirely- well thought-out point) giving trouble?

And 2)
Snappy. Anyone can delete their own threads. After posted.. there is a DELETE button lower left.

 

[Tigerdrummer]

I am very unsympathetic with my drums when they do this

 

[Tmcfour]

If the melodic tom part is just in one part of the song punch in the part or record the snare and punch it (the snare) in later. Use a pad while recording the song so you have a rhythmic place holder.

 

[rondrums51]

Try some different snare drums.

Ot try Noble and Cooley Cam Action snares. They're designed to reduce sympathetic snare buzz.

 

[MasterBlaster]

I wonder howso??? Magic?