First Kit - Buying and Setup

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lol - I know, I've scratched off that GAS itch lately for the most part for a couple of different reasons as mentioned but still, I'm up at 6 or earlier Saturdays waiting for that text (two of them usually). I scan the items for sale and I bite back hard and generally... generally hold out but if it's a great deal on something I can use I go for it.

They have great deals on drum heads too and throw in "free" textured snare heads. The snare upgrade kit (Evans dry head, reso and Puresound snare wires) are really a good deal when they have them.
I'll probably put some lines in the sand and say "Before I begin the upgrade process ...." then I'll have to be able to perform some technical things to prove to myself I've been putting in the work, and maybe moderate versions of 10 songs I want to be able to perform. Meanwhile, I'll be putting my nickles in a jar to pay for it.

Fast forward a year and I'll have already bought all that stuff anyway and it will be sitting in a corner waiting for me to hit those lines in the sand. I suck.
 

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You answered another thing that I'm studying up on and that is "What is the right sized kit to buy without distracting myself with cool stuff". Some would say "Your practice pad" but I would really be looking for the basic kit. Thanks.
A four or five piece kit (bass, snare, one or two hanging toms and a floor tom) would be considered the standard. A pair of hi hats, a crash, and a ride would be the same for cymbals. You can play with more or less than that without detriment but thats a good place to start
 

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You answered another thing that I'm studying up on and that is "What is the right sized kit to buy without distracting myself with cool stuff". Some would say "Your practice pad" but I would really be looking for the basic kit. Thanks.
What’s your total budget? Do you have any environmental obstacles to consider (you live in an apartment, you have a family you don’t want to annoy, noise sensitive neighbors, etc…)

I’ve been playing drums for 25 years, still suck but still, and all I really need to play to anything, anywhere, anytime are a kick drum, snare, hats, and a crash/ride. Those are the most important bits and what I need to both have fun or play the right part
to fit the tune

If you really want to get the simplest setup go on reverb and buy a kick,snare, hats and ride. Done
 

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oh yea..

That'd be one I'd be looking at.

I saw The Verve Pipe at the casino in Columbus.. 7 years ago maybe. Free show too, had a table right by the stage. One of the most memorable shows I've seen.
 

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Since I'm trading out the guitar (hand condition) for drums, I have a fair idea that I'm going to stick with playing.

How often do you see a new drummer (I'm 53 yrs old, if that matters) buy a kit that is so underwhelming that really quickly they upgrade? How often do you see a new drummer go buy a kit that is so far advanced they have no chance of catching up to it for quite some time?

As you could probably tell, I'm arguing with myself on what price point to jump into for my first kit. On one hand, I've thought of buying "the cheapest kit that would work", whatever that would mean, and then start replacing drums one every other month or so as my practice commitment and abilities improve. On the other hand, I know buying a combo kit is probably cheaper in the long run. I'd buy into a basic kit and then add to it, again as my needs arise.

I'm sure my dilemma is common. While I don't know what "the cheapest kit that would work" would be, I'm certainly thinking the Mapex Armory 6-Piece Studioease is probably a touch more than required at this time! Currently, I have an Evans practice pad and will stick with that for a bit, but will eventually purchase something.
Best kit for the money, IMO! Entry level price. Pro build quality. It could be your first and last kit.

 

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I’m 50, a guitarist first, and I started drumming last year. I began with an e-kit (still have it) but sought out an acoustic kit after a few months because there were some learning concepts where an e-kit didn’t work well (kick playing force etc).

Anyways, I asked a drumming friend for advice and would send him used kit ads to get his opinion but you can certainly use this forum for that as well. I ended up picking up an early 2000s PDP CX kit which is one of the makes/models I would suggest you keep an eye out for.You can search the forum about these but the short story is that these were maple kits made in the same factory using the same materials as DW drums back when their production was located in Baja Mexico. The kits are well regarded and play above their price point.

Here’s one listing of a used kit at Guitar Center. GC gets maligned but you are able to search their chain wide inventory and have a used product shipped to your local store or even your home. I haven’t done this with drums but I have done this with guitars without any complaints. Just another thought. Good luck!
 

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Good advice, thanks. I'm going to put quite mesh heads on the kit right away so I can play it at night, so I'm really just preparing for when I put live heads back on when I get to go jam.
Since I'm trading out the guitar (hand condition) for drums, I have a fair idea that I'm going to stick with playing.

How often do you see a new drummer (I'm 53 yrs old, if that matters) buy a kit that is so underwhelming that really quickly they upgrade? How often do you see a new drummer go buy a kit that is so far advanced they have no chance of catching up to it for quite some time?

As you could probably tell, I'm arguing with myself on what price point to jump into for my first kit. On one hand, I've thought of buying "the cheapest kit that would work", whatever that would mean, and then start replacing drums one every other month or so as my practice commitment and abilities improve. On the other hand, I know buying a combo kit is probably cheaper in the long run. I'd buy into a basic kit and then add to it, again as my needs arise.

I'm sure my dilemma is common. While I don't know what "the cheapest kit that would work" would be, I'm certainly thinking the Mapex Armory 6-Piece Studioease is probably a touch more than required at this time! Currently, I have an Evans practice pad and will stick with that for a bit, but will eventually purchase something.
I'm in Pennsylvania, but I'm very familiar with Ohio.

I agree with the advice to buy used. You live a little over an hour from Columbus. There is currently a nice, complete, used set of Sonor 3005s on the Columbus Craigslist for $350.

I would run to get them.

Something comparable new would be closer to a grand. Sonor's Taiwan import lines are a better place to start than a lot of us had. These are likely good enough for when you start to jam with others. In fact, many people gig with a kit like this.

The best part, you could likely get your $350 out of them when you are ready to upgrade.

Sonor Force 3005 drum set complete - musical instruments - by owner... (craigslist.org)

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In any case, welcome to DFO.
 
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I recently bought a nearly new YAMAHA STAGE CUSTOM Birch set from Guitar Center thru the online site... shipping was only $33! Turned out to be a great deal

GC online currently has a VERY COOL 5 piece (snare included) PDP LX red fade set (Mexico) for $250 plus the $33 shipping. I would buy it if I didn't already have four sets.

Great deals at GC online cuz of the low shipping, and they always seem to have some nice used PDP and Yammie SCB sets.
 

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Just be ready to make mistakes no matter how hard you think things over or how much studying you do. It's going to happen. You can't possibly grasp all of the nuances and details of something like drumming all at once. Being here helps a lot, as it did for me, but it can also be overwhelming at times.

The first time you sit on a drum throne with 2 sticks in your hand and a full kit in front of you is pretty overwhelming! So go used, don't spend much money and just start playing. I started on an MIJ kit, which was a cheap Japanese copy of one of the big 3 American brands, but it served the purpose and I learned a lot about tuning, drum heads, sounds, and a bunch of the details about drums with it. Eventually I had enough knowledge to move to a better kit, but I won't forget that first kit! Your tastes will definitely change as you get better and learn more and then you can get that "forever" kit.

Good luck!
 

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I'd buy a Bop Kit for under $400...Gretsch/Tama/ Ludwig/Sonor...all have some decent starter kits...get them pre-owned, even better...GC/Sam Ash/Chicago Music///the web world has an abundance out there

Better yet, a used Gretsch Catalina, if I was looking
 

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I agree with the advice to buy used. You live a little over an hour from Columbus. There is currently a nice, complete, used set of Sonor 3005s on the Columbus Craigslist for $350.
That's a great deal - get it if you can! Even if the cymbals are utter garbage, you can sell them for $50 at least. Decent cymbals and snares can be easily bought online. Shipping hardware and shells is pricey, though.
 

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A four or five piece kit (bass, snare, one or two hanging toms and a floor tom) would be considered the standard. A pair of hi hats, a crash, and a ride would be the same for cymbals. You can play with more or less than that without detriment but thats a good place to start
When looking at basic kits, that's the configuration I keep seeing. I even figured that ONE tom would work, but I'd want to go by that quickly. I mean, how else could I even fake "In the Air Tonight?"
 

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What’s your total budget? Do you have any environmental obstacles to consider (you live in an apartment, you have a family you don’t want to annoy, noise sensitive neighbors, etc…)

I’ve been playing drums for 25 years, still suck but still, and all I really need to play to anything, anywhere, anytime are a kick drum, snare, hats, and a crash/ride. Those are the most important bits and what I need to both have fun or play the right part
to fit the tune

If you really want to get the simplest setup go on reverb and buy a kick,snare, hats and ride. Done
My total "out the door" budget is 2k but I know that's way more than a person, especially a beginner, needs to be spending on a basic kit. I say 2k because I'm putting in the sale of some guitars and equipment plus $500 and that adds up to 2k. I would prefer to get "the right kit" and then put the rest of the money to the side.

As far as environmental, I'll be usually playing at 10 pm in my basement so noise is an issue. I WAS considering electronic (Roland 17KVX) but I'm now thinking I'll replace the heads with something quiet and get quiet cymbals, etc.
 

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WELL LETS LOOK AT YOUR (I think closest) CRAIGSLIST FOR something Local SHALL WE?

I've been looking at Craigslist, FB Market (not as good) and I also threw Reverb on there. Wading through the options, hitting the manufacturer's site to get a sense of layer, etc.
 

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I’m 50, a guitarist first, and I started drumming last year. I began with an e-kit (still have it) but sought out an acoustic kit after a few months because there were some learning concepts where an e-kit didn’t work well (kick playing force etc).

Anyways, I asked a drumming friend for advice and would send him used kit ads to get his opinion but you can certainly use this forum for that as well. I ended up picking up an early 2000s PDP CX kit which is one of the makes/models I would suggest you keep an eye out for.You can search the forum about these but the short story is that these were maple kits made in the same factory using the same materials as DW drums back when their production was located in Baja Mexico. The kits are well regarded and play above their price point.

Here’s one listing of a used kit at Guitar Center. GC gets maligned but you are able to search their chain wide inventory and have a used product shipped to your local store or even your home. I haven’t done this with drums but I have done this with guitars without any complaints. Just another thought. Good luck!
I did read once about PDP being DW's behind the scenes. Thanks for the options.
 

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I'm in Pennsylvania, but I'm very familiar with Ohio.

I agree with the advice to buy used. You live a little over an hour from Columbus. There is currently a nice, complete, used set of Sonor 3005s on the Columbus Craigslist for $350.

I would run to get them.

Something comparable new would be closer to a grand. Sonor's Taiwan import lines are a better place to start than a lot of us had. These are likely good enough for when you start to jam with others. In fact, many people gig with a kit like this.

The best part, you could likely get your $350 out of them when you are ready to upgrade.

Sonor Force 3005 drum set complete - musical instruments - by owner... (craigslist.org)

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In any case, welcome to DFO.
Thanks for the time to go search and find these.
 


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