Floor tom with snares?

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I looked for a previous thread about this, didn't see the topic, so asking if anyone has added snares to a 13" or 14" floor tom and specific details, especially about the snare bed?
Josh from Inde Drums posted about a recent kit which he added snares to the 14" tom, I have a 13" hanging floor and an extra throw off but what kind of snare bed would be best?

 
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Haven't done it, but I do have a 12x15 "FT" converted from a marching drum.....I suppose I could have not removed the snare wires and throw/butt and it would have worked.......I'd be worried about snare buzz........
 
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On that kit I used the same snare bed we use on our normal wood snare drums- shallow, medium-wide, gradual transitions. The next question is what heads to choose. I used an Aquarian snare side head on this. Using such a thin head does take a bit of "body" away from the sound of the drum, and reduces tuning range, so it's a compromise. You could also choose a 7.5 or 10 mil clear head, which would make the tom sound better, but reduce the responsiveness of the snares.
 

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Do you want to turn the tom into a permanent snare? If not, I will give you a suggestion. When I want to add some grunge to the sound of drums (think drums as a prepared piano) I just put some guitar strings on the bottom head... bang instant snare sound (more like a marching band drum).
 

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I’d love to order an Inde kit like the one in the video or one of Inde’s Wayfarer kits.
(Sadly an unmentionable world wide health calamity has derailed my drum collecting).
Josh is the most brilliant drum designer working today imho. If you haven’t already done so check out his great vids on his youtube channel.
That he replied to this post, sharing all the info I need, proves he is also a good person.
Thanks Josh!

I have a 13” hanging tom, an extra snare and butt plate and time on my hands so just needed some advice.
It is part of my 10/13/16/20 orphan refurb kit. (The 16 also converts to a bass).

I will check out the Tama drum. Guitar strings is also an interesting drum hack, but I do want to be able to switch snares on/off. Snare buzz will be a concern but will try Josh’s suggestions,
thanks for the helpful ideas!
 

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Currently building a "snom", or a left side FT with snares from a 14x15 80's (?) Ludwig 6ply some kind of concert tom. Redrilled drum to 8 lugs from 10 to fit a S-hoop, and a more common snare hoop. (and have 4 spare classic lugs).Single cut 45 bearing edges are good, rest of set ('71 Ludwig 24,13,16,18 3ply) has recut 45 inside x 7/16 RO edges and 2 oz.cloth fiberglas inside. Plan to hand cut, file and sandpaper snare bed, similar to my '61 Jazz Festival. Anybody out there built a similar "Frankendrum"? I don't know if this drum will sound like the others, or it will be so much different that it won't matter.
 

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I've considered this, but .......

2 problems hold me back: the snare beds and the need for a snare head on the reso side ..... unless you want a "tubby" snare sound ....... not for me, anyway!

And once in awhile, I like a floor tom with ..... balls!

M.
 

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I added snares to two 16" Yamaha timpani floor toms since I can't do anything normal during the current plague. We just added snare beds and 16" wire snares on one (right side, next to normal 14" floor tom) and used three strands of large gut on the lower tuned one on the left side. The second tom was missing the foot pedal mechanism so we used some Yamaha high hat parts to replace the missing pedal. The higher angle pedal actually gives more tuning range. We used Indie strainers and butts. Works like a champ and surprises the heck out of visiting drummers. The only problem was getting the white wrap off of the drums, it was glued down all around the shell.
 

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I appreciate "new" ideas, but i think this one will be short lived, i hope. I dont get the objective making a floor tom sound flabby, then not being able to tune it because of the snare bed when you want a normal floor tom.

What i do see is an 8" snare drum beside the hats tuned swampy for effects
Just my opinion.
 

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I appreciate "new" ideas, but i think this one will be short lived, i hope. I dont get the objective making a floor tom sound flabby, then not being able to tune it because of the snare bed when you want a normal floor tom.

What i do see is an 8" snare drum beside the hats tuned swampy for effects
Just my opinion.
Agree a better alternative is setting up an effects snare. But, (pre-Covid), in my area (greater Toronto), more bars than ever were hiring bands but at the same time offering smaller spaces in which to set up. Usually no stage at all.
At the Augusta House in Hamilton, (which was a blast to play), you have to climb onto the seat of a booth to get behind your kit.
My interest in the SNOM is in that circumstance. I have an Alesis Percpad but it’s easier to just flip on the snares of the snom.
 

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Something to ponder:

“Snom” is so awkward a word.
Why are these not referred to as a “flare”?
 

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Rdavidr made one out of an old marching snare drum. It's on YouTube. Just search rdavidr snom. He did for another YouTube drummer. So to hear it you would need to click the link in the build video. And larnell Lewis from snarky puppy uses one as well. If you look up what about me live you'll find the video and he uses it on the solo part especially.
 

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Something to ponder:

“Snom” is so awkward a word.
Why are these not referred to as a “flare”?
That sounds good to me. Kind of like the badges on the suspenders for the wait staff in older theme restaurants. I'm thinking of Jennifer Abston in "Office Space". I hope that is the name of the movie. I love real time pitch adjustable drums (for lack of a better name) and am old enough to remember the Pearl Vari Pitch sets of the 1970's. I am sometimes tempted to add my Firchie snare drum to my jazz set just for fun, but that even pegs my weird-o-meter. I guess I should learn to do the trick with the rubber tubing and blowing in the drum to change the pitch. One strange day I took a Remo PTS head and moved it above a "normal" floor tom to change the pitch and sound of the tom. It worked from where I was sitting but I have no idea if an audience member could hear it.
 


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