FOUR CRASH CYMBALS

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18" Zildjian K dark thin 1349 grams
18" Sabian Manhattan 1444 grams
18" Paiste Traditional ETCHED LOGO 1301 grams
17" Paiste Signature Fast Crash 1109 grams
John Riley Sticks
Yamaha 700 Series Cymbal Stand (not felt on top)

Be careful for your ears at 3:57 I hit it too hard !!


Time Punches in following order, K, Sabian, Trad, Fast

Crashes 1:15, 1:29, 1:42, 1:54

Ride pattern 2:04, 2:17, 2:32, 2:47

Bell 3:03, 3:16, 3:29, 3:42

Loud then soft crashes 3:57, 4:14 , 4:30, 4:46

YOU WILL WANT TO GO TO youtube.com so you can click on these (they are in the description)


 
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All sound nice and quite different. In this setting I prefer the Paiste Trad.
That one is deceptive. Out front it sounds great. In driver's seat can come off as too washy, inarticulate, and mushy.
 

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That 17" is something. I used it on my jazz gig yesterday and with a light touch and jazz stick it sits wonderfully in the music. I used it mostly as a crash though and ride on my 22" 90% of the time. But I do normally
 

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Not that anyone cares but my two favorites are the k dark thin and the 17" fast.
The trad is great but a little hollow...i think the bridge of the cymbal factors in the sound. Who knows it could become my favorite as time goes on

But im so used to my k dark thin....my ears need to adjust.

I need a little more time with the trad.
Ill gig it Saturday and see.

Its nice to have options.

The sabian is great too but maybe a touch bright because of the bell pitch...its a great left side ride and imo would work better in a loud setting than the k dark thin. The Sabian has a little more meat to it.

After all is said and done I'll probably end up with my 18" k dark thin fitzsy/ paul Francis hand picked as my left side in the place its been for a long time now.
Its a special cymbal
 
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Which is the best crash?
Ha ha.

Just kidding. There is no best.

I think any of them could work in a bunch of settings.

My least favorite is the Manhattan...but still...its really nice. I could totally love it. Im saying its 4th out of the 4 not that I dont like it.
I've played two gigs with it and it was nice.
 

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Also the difference between watching the video on my phone no ear buds and my computer with nice speakers is huge!
 

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Your 17" fast crash sounds quite a bit higher in pitch than mine. Mine sounds like an 18.
 

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Yeah. I had one before that was lower pitched. Should have kept it. This is still beautiful though.

I cant imagine a "better" 17 fast...just different.

All 4 are great. Its just fun making comparison videos.

My favorite is always going to be the k dark thin but that trad is starting to work on me.

Next video will be with a play a long track
 
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That’s a great K. I settled into a K custom dark I like a little better for me, but I recall that being a great one. It really shines in actual music. Not so thin that it can’t project (you can left side ride it and carry a big band) but subtle enough you can lay into it or play with brushes. Great tool for making actual music.
 

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Totally agree on all points

Thanks for selling it to me. How many years ago was that?

That’s a great K. I settled into a K custom dark I like a little better for me, but I recall that being a great one. It really shines in actual music. Not so thin that it can’t project (you can left side ride it and carry a big band) but subtle enough you can lay into it or play with brushes. Great tool for making actual music.
 


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