Gretsch?

[tkillian]

And to make things even more interesting.

Check these lines out on the top and bottom the floor tom. Totally mystery.

 

[tkillian]

And 3 different kinds of lugs screws.
These are from in order of top to bottom the 12x8, then the 14x14 and the stop sign badge 4158 snare. The bass drum are the same as the 12x8.
Im falling in love with these drums even more. I like mutts better than purebreds I guess

 

[paulwells73]

I like mutts better than purebreds I guess

Don’t tell Watson!

 

[airborneSFC]

I've had many 14x14 Gretsch floor toms mainly from the 60's and 70's. I can say that some of the shells varied in thickness.

 

[tkillian]

Update

 

[tkillian]

New mounts

 

[tkillian]

Old ones

 

[Skeet6]

And to make things even more interesting.

Check these lines out on the top and bottom the floor tom. Totally mystery.

My bet is someone cut back an existing wrap sometime before they were refinished as natural finish.
Mike B

 

[K.O.]

View attachment 477773 View attachment 477774 View attachment 477775 View attachment 477776 And to make things even more interesting.

Check these lines out on the top and bottom the floor tom. Totally mystery.

Modern Gretsch drums of the early 2000s to recently that were wrapped had the wrap cut back from the edge about that same amount. I don't know if they cover the whole drum with wrap and then cut off the part at the edge or only wrap the center of the drum to start with. If they do the former those lines might be the result.

 

[Skeet6]

Modern Gretsch drums of the early 2000s to recently that were wrapped had the wrap cut back from the edge about that same amount. I don't know if they cover the whole drum with wrap and then cut off the part at the edge or only wrap the center of the drum to start with. If they do the former those lines might be the result.

They cut them afterward. See vid below (cued).

Mike B

 

[tkillian]

See next post

 

[tkillian]

My bet is someone cut back an existing wrap sometime before they were refinished as natural finish.
Mike B

Yes. The previous owner removed what he said was a really faded champagne sparkle wrap. He sent the ft and bd to a furniture company who refinished the drums in this beautiful natural finish

 

[JazzDrumGuy]

I have a stop sign badge 12 inch and a modern USA 14 X 14 as well have had other mkdern 14x144 and they've all had that weird line so I wouldn't worry about that. With regard to the screws, to me that's nitpicking that they don't match. All look right. The drums look gorgeous and as long as they sound right, just keep jamming!

 

[JDA]

I think my ft is a new classic

so was the wrap vintage sparkle cut back on new classic series drums
i don't think so

i'm referring back to the discussion that the floor started as a wrapped new classic
does the cut line now point to it being/been a usa custom

 

[tkillian]

Im so happy with these drums. Its just fun to know their history and age. Just like my Slingerlands every drum is unique.

Great discussion and information everyone.

Regarding the floor tom im just gonna go with stop sign badge era. Thats based on info the seller gave me and he us a huge gretsch/vintage guy who knows his stuff in addition to Paul Wells and many of you other gretsch experts.

And yes...they have that great gretsch tone for sure!

One day I will post a nice video on my YouTube channel

 

[tkillian]

so was the wrap vintage sparkle cut back on new classic series drums
i don't think so

i'm referring back to the discussion that the floor started as a wrapped new classic
does the cut line now point to it being/been a usa custom

Right. That is why I said I think I agree with those who say it is a stop sign floor tom

 

[drumtimejohn]

so was the wrap vintage sparkle cut back on new classic series drums
i don't think so

i'm referring back to the discussion that the floor started as a wrapped new classic
does the cut line now point to it being/been a usa custom

A NC 14x14 is cut back and shows a scored cut line.

 

[drumtimejohn]

Both vintage and NC lugs share the same 1 5/16” spacing as well.

 

[JDA]

there ya have it NC were cutbacks tooooo

 

[tkillian]

Nope . Its a stop sign.



But ....it sounds like a gRetsch!