Help Identifying Paiste 22” Ride

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I bought a used cymbal and this was thrown in. It’s an absolute beast in terms of weight and sustain. Any idea what model it may be? Age is unknown.
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after you bathe..(soap,water, laundry tub, nylon/soft brush/ in circles around lathe lines even if there isn't any..) ... (it) is there a serial number below the Cup topside.

Looks like a 100 Rude or something; what's the lowest number Rude they had... 200? 300? 400? ..60? 49.5?
 
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Something doesn’t look correct. The Paiste logo on the bottom is not a decal is it?
 

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I can't tell if the underside is lathing or cleaning scratches, but that looks a lot like a RUDE and that description fits.
 

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there was a 1000 Rude ( but OP cymbal doesn't quite look like it +/-


seems usu. Green letterin'


may look like this

whatever it is that OP cymbal may sound better today than it did when new as styles (and ears) may have changed lol
 
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RUDE certainly possible but 1000s would have the lettering on the underside in green.
No serial number to be found?
 

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That hammering is done by hand, so that would leave out those old numbered series like 1000's or 405/400's, Rudes etc. which were all done machine as far as I know. And if I'm not mistaken the Rudes are the only Paiste's with white lettering, and those letters look almost like stick-ons or something.
 

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kid wanted the audience to think he was playing Paiste
 
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Sorry all for the delay. The lettering on the bottom appears to be applied on with white paint - perhaps over whatever was there that was fading. I cannot find any serial numbers.

I'll give it a cleaning this evening, as recommended, and post up some better pictures.
 
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Sorry all for the delay. The lettering on the bottom appears to be applied on with white paint - perhaps over whatever was there that was fading. I cannot find any serial numbers.

I'll give it a cleaning this evening, as recommended, and post up some better pictures.
So you can pretty much rule out Paiste then. Any chance of seeing what the previous owner covered up?

Looks like a decent hand hammered cymbal though.
 

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We’ll I’ll be. Gave it a bath and found some lettering. I believe that it says “Paiste 23 5 2” by the bell. Maybe it’s 234542” but that’s a wild guess. The hammering is not uniform, so maybe it was hand hammered?
The bottom lettering looks like paint added over the top of what may have been there before.
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Ahh, so it is a Paiste!

And an old one at that. Definitely hand hammered, but it doesn't look like anything from Paiste to me. But it's old, so maybe a better Paiste expert will show up and help identify it.
 

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Wish I could help with the model! Maybe you could contact them. You're welcome!
I think it’s a 22” White Label Ride as shown here:


 

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According to Paiste, this would've been made in 1982:

Here is a much more complete reference on serial numbers and years which is vetted against thousands of cymbals in our database.


A prefix PAISTE without series id should be 1985 to 1991ish. So if you see a 2 most likely 1992

*edit* except that I'm reminded by Todd that the series id wasn't added to RUDEs and a few other models. So 1982 is fine.
 
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