Help with identifying 13" high hats please

Gunnellett

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I found these hats but they are too far from me to go see and I'm not good with identifying vintage cymbals.

These are described as very light vintage 13" cymbals. The guy said they may be Italian, Zildjian, or Ludwig/Paiste but feels the color and style looks Zildjian. Well that really narrows it down LOL! He cant find any stamps.
 

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Wide and consistent lathing w/o being able to find stamps suggests they aren't Zildjians. Could be early Paistes (602), UFIPs, or even Japanese.
Thanks!

I've asked for more pics so hopefully I'll get some tomorrow to post.
 

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Not that much more help. Very wide and deep lathing lines....some casting ripples at the base of the bell. I'd call it low end whatever they are.
 

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Alloy wise the colour is very similar to some old cymbals that I have. I asked on here a while back for help identifying them as I thought they were UFIP, it turns out that was correct, they were UFIP Red Sound.
 


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