Seriously you did not know he moved out of the shop he had in the basement of the building in Covington?!?!?
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Help with Lugs for my Great Grandfather's 1957 Rogers Holiday Snare
- Thread starter ajsmcs
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Seriously you did not know he moved out of the shop he had in the basement of the building in Covington?!?!?
I did not.
He just drilled some coffin lugs for me so i assumed he was still in biz.
I remember hearing something about Jeff maybe selling the building but it's not my business so I don't ask.
I’m all for offering Andrew a solid solution which he’s already aware of and answering his call with a cracked lug for repair even if temporary until something better comes along
I appreciate all of your responses, and the subsequent heated debate. 
When it comes to "usable historical artifacts" there will always be the divide between "leave it and look" and "fix it and use." Theres no right answer, of course.
JP, I will take you up on that once I have a free moment to look thru your pics and sort things out. I'm in the middle of a busy few days this week.
When it comes to "usable historical artifacts" there will always be the divide between "leave it and look" and "fix it and use." Theres no right answer, of course.JP, I will take you up on that once I have a free moment to look thru your pics and sort things out. I'm in the middle of a busy few days this week.
Ask and you shall receive. This is my uncle in the late '60s/early '70s. Unfortunately, that neat little hihat is one of the pieces that's been lost to history, and the one I've spent the most time looking for. Seriously, how do you lose that? The snare stand as well, along with whatever it is he's using to keep those cymbals screwed on. Those rods have no threads at the top, so ???
Everything else I still have. The trap table and temple blocks are in about the same shape you see them in here. I was a little rough on the cymbals as a kid, but they're still in pretty good shape. And of course you can see the Rogers. That was missing the batter head, but otherwise was all there.
He used that poor bass drum as a bed side table, cranked alllll the way up. You can see where the head was already starting to pull off the ring near where its light up red, so that didn't do much to help.
Rest assured, I DO have those godawful gold folding chairs AND a matching card table. Not really a fair trade, if I'm being honest....
blue-onyx
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dear ajsmcs
here is another idea for you. I haven't actually tried it mystelf, so you should probably take this with a grain of salt. I would go ahead and purchase the b&b lugs from new rogers even though the mounting hole spacing is not quite correct at 1-/5/8in. center to center. Your holes in your shell are 2-1/8in. center to center. I would then make an adapter plate out of stainless steel sheet or aluminum sheet. With a countersunk screw to mount the new lugs to the adapter plate, it might be possible to then mount the plate to the existing holes. I know that they make snare drum strainer adapter plates this way in order to mount new strainers with differing hole patterns onto older drums. I know that the new rogers b&b lugs require a black plastic spacer. if you chuck the spacer and replace it with this adapter plate, you would still have the lug positioned correctly to avoid the dreaded "tension rod splay".
I have a b&b snare in blue onyx, with uncracked lugs despite being tensioned. I guess i have been lucky.
I hope you are able to surprise your uncle. what a great story! good luck!
John
here is another idea for you. I haven't actually tried it mystelf, so you should probably take this with a grain of salt. I would go ahead and purchase the b&b lugs from new rogers even though the mounting hole spacing is not quite correct at 1-/5/8in. center to center. Your holes in your shell are 2-1/8in. center to center. I would then make an adapter plate out of stainless steel sheet or aluminum sheet. With a countersunk screw to mount the new lugs to the adapter plate, it might be possible to then mount the plate to the existing holes. I know that they make snare drum strainer adapter plates this way in order to mount new strainers with differing hole patterns onto older drums. I know that the new rogers b&b lugs require a black plastic spacer. if you chuck the spacer and replace it with this adapter plate, you would still have the lug positioned correctly to avoid the dreaded "tension rod splay".
I have a b&b snare in blue onyx, with uncracked lugs despite being tensioned. I guess i have been lucky.
I hope you are able to surprise your uncle. what a great story! good luck!
John
levelpebble
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Hit me up if you want hats like that, or a period correct W&A hihat stand.
Dzdrum
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0226
levelpebble
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Better review that.
Dzdrum
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sorry typo 1226
Very nice
I have 1027 and 1343 over here.
Dzdrum
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Any pictures of them?
yessir
the Sparkling Blue Pearl is #1343
1962
and the other is a Gretsch shell which is more rare than any wood Dyna.
The very first run 1961
#1027
both with flawless lugs
Dzdrum
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Are you playing both of those snare and having no issues with lugs cracking under pressure?
I do not play the Gretsch shell.
I do play the blue drum pretty regularly and have no issues
I don't tension the drum extremely tight
