HHX complex or Z sweet cymbal pack

[anthony marquart]

I'm buying a cymbal pack and I'm trying to choose from the Z sweets in 15 in hats, 17,19,21, and the HHX complex cymbal pack..

Opinions?

 

[varatrodder]

I guess it would depend on which Sabian pack. They have a pack with 15" hats, 19" thin crash, and 22" medium ride. I also see one with 14" hats, 16" and 18" crashes and and 21" thin ride.

I REALLY like the 22" medium ride in that series, but it is a different beast than the Zildjian Sweet rides (A or K). I've had both the A and K Sweet Rides, and they're nice, but a lot washier than than the HHX Complex Medium.

 

[stevil]

I use a 21 K Sweet Ride as a crash. I'm a bit of a basher, but even so I confidently say that 21 K Sweet Rides have less ride to them than most crash-rides. I really couldn't imagine using it as a ride unless I was using brushes tiny, tiny sticks.

 

[nickrobotron]

There are some really great packs with 15 K Lights, 17 K Dark Thin, 19 K Dark Thin, and a 22 K Light Ride. I would choose that over the Sweets. The Sweets are so bright and small sounding, IMO.

But above all, I would vote for the the HHX Complexes. A little more bite and more dynamic. Highs, lows, complexity, sweetness. I would say these are geared more for a slightly louder situation.

You can obviously get some good listens on YT, which is more important than anything I'm saying. But I definitely want to pitch the other pack if you go with Zildjian.

Zildjian KP100 K Light Cymbal Pack | Reverb

Zildjian K series box set contains 1pr 15" K light hi hats, 1-17" K dark thin crash, 1-19" K dark thin crash, 22" K light ride and a free 22" gig bag.

reverb.com

 

[mkelley]

I'm buying a cymbal pack and I'm trying to choose from the Z sweets in 15 in hats, 17,19,21, and the HHX complex cymbal pack..

Opinions?

The Sabian HHX complex are some of the best cymbals they’ve created in the past 20 years. Controllable and yet full sounding. No clankers in the bunch.

 

[felis]

I use a 21 K Sweet Ride as a crash. I'm a bit of a basher, but even so I confidently say that 21 K Sweet Rides have less ride to them than most crash-rides. I really couldn't imagine using it as a ride unless I was using brushes tiny, tiny sticks.

What do you normally use as a ride?

 

[stevil]

What do you normally use as a ride?

I currently play a Zildjian 24 A medium, which is pretty great. I’m also a fan of 22 K Heavy rides, which play much lighter than the name implies. I’d really like to check out the new 24 Orchestral Ride for something a little lighter than my medium. I’ve heard great things about them on this forum.

 

[funkypoodle]

The Sabian HHX complex are some of the best cymbals they’ve created in the past 20 years. Controllable and yet full sounding. No clankers in the bunch.

A good friend of mine picked up a Sabian HHX Complex pack & I played [email protected]#$%ing stunning! A perfectly balanced kit..Needless to say I got instant GAS.

 

[Steech]

Sabian. Final answer.

 

[Phantomlimb777]

There are some really great packs with 15 K Lights, 17 K Dark Thin, 19 K Dark Thin, and a 22 K Light Ride. I would choose that over the Sweets. The Sweets are so bright and small sounding, IMO.

But above all, I would vote for the the HHX Complexes. A little more bite and more dynamic. Highs, lows, complexity, sweetness. I would say these are geared more for a slightly louder situation.

You can obviously get some good listens on YT, which is more important than anything I'm saying. But I definitely want to pitch the other pack if you go with Zildjian.

Zildjian KP100 K Light Cymbal Pack | Reverb

Zildjian K series box set contains 1pr 15" K light hi hats, 1-17" K dark thin crash, 1-19" K dark thin crash, 22" K light ride and a free 22" gig bag.

reverb.com

What this guy said.

 

[stevil]

Can’t speak to the crashes or hats, but the Complex Medium rides I’ve heard have been stunning

 

[Steech]

Can’t speak to the crashes or hats, but the Complex Medium rides I’ve heard have been stunning

The crashes are great too.

 

[VinSparkle]

Check out this pack from Zildjian. I really like the hats and the crash ride…heck the crashes too

Zildjian K Country Cymbal Set - 15-/17-/19-/20-inch

4-piece Cymbal Pack with 15" Hi-Hats (Pair), 17" and 19" Crashes, and 20" Crash/Ride

www.sweetwater.com

 

[anthony marquart]

Well,.. I saw most of these responses after I ordered the K sweets pack.. Got it today..
The 15in hats,. great. 19 crash great, 17 meh.. Ride,... nice but not enough cut for a rock band. I may get another opinion,.. but I think I'll be sending these back and getting the Sabian pack..

 

[Sequimite]

Amazon Warehouse had that Sabian Complex set for $660. It dropped to$620 before someone bought it. There's another set that's been dropping in price but still over $700 last time I checked.

 

[Pat A Flafla]

I know packs are easier and save a few bucks, but I'd always rather assemble a set from plates I hand pick in person.

 

[anthony marquart]

Amazon Warehouse had that Sabian Complex set for $660. It dropped to$620 before someone bought it. There's another set that's been dropping in price but still over $700 last time I checked.

can you share a link? I can't find it

 

[Sequimite]

can you share a link? I can't find it

Amazon.com: Sabian HHX Complex Performance Set 15" Hi-Hats 19" Thin Crash 22" Medium Ride (15005XCN) : Musical Instruments

Buy Sabian HHX Complex Performance Set 15" Hi-Hats 19" Thin Crash 22" Medium Ride (15005XCN): Variety Packs - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

www.amazon.com

Prices drop at least once a week.

 

[5stroke]

HHX Complex!! Much more musical and versatile, comparatively speaking,
IMO.