kenshireen1
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I've seen alot of great looking vintage snares that are all original other than being rewrapped.
How do you think this affect the market value and appeal
How do you think this affect the market value and appeal
Don't understand ratio40/60
This.simple - it's only original once.
You would pay north of 1,500 for a rewrapped vintage Rogers kit? ( based on a nice original at 2,000 +)I think @JazzDrumGuy did a great job explaining. There are going to be a lot of factors to consider. Some drums that are more highly desirable to begin with will still bring a decent price as a rewrap. But an average run-of-the-mill Slingerland set won’t be worth more when it’s rewrapped (and I love vintage Slingerlands) — probably less. That said, I can really appreciate a great looking and well-applied rewrap job. If I found a set of vintage drums I really liked and they were in nice rewrapped condition I would certainly consider purchasing them. In a Slingerland, or a Rogers, I would expect to pay maybe 70-75% of excellent original condition? Ludwig and Gretsch seem to be a little more valuable in a rewrap.
I get the collectors wanting everything to be all original and so forth, but with that said, drums to me are instruments to be played. I wouldn't think twice about rewrapping a drum if it needed it. I know that is not a popular opinion with the purists and I understand where they are coming from, but really after all they are just drums and in the overall scheme of things and there are not that many purists, and if it devalued the drum how much is it worth to begin with, and does it really matter? I would ask myself what my intention is for the drum to sit on a shelf and collect dust to maintain its value? Is it really worth that much? and what's the down side of re-wrapping it? As for me and my situation, I have never owned or bought a drum for its intrinsic value, nor am I interested in collecting for collecting sake. I buy drums and gear and alter them in anyway I see fit and don't give it another thought. In my opinion there are a lot better things to invest in to make money than old drums in someone's basement. I realize there are many on this forum that see it completely different than I do and I think that is great and wish them all the success there is. Difference of perspectives is what makes the people on this forum so interesting to me. I just use my drums and equipment for their intended use and I take exceptional care of them to the point of being anal. But outside of that they are used and changed as the need arises...
I get what you're saying, and to some extent I agree. But I would probably not spend 2k+ on an original Rogers set -- I tend to only pick up vintage drums when they are priced really well. I don't fancy myself a collector, just an appreciator of these drums. That said, if a set with damaged wrap had been professionally rewrapped in something that really looked stunning to me (green glitter, perhaps) and had sizes I really like (20/12/14/matching snare) then I could possibly be attracted to that set at $1500. I'm sure that someone could respond using my own previous words about the desirability factors, since a 14" Holiday floor tom and Rogers drums in green glitter are pretty rare, making $1500 more of a deal compared to the same set with a 16 in gloss black. But that's the silliness of collectability in my mind -- the exact same drum with a different layer of plastic on top is worth a vastly different amount to the collector. It's really not, to me -- but my number is going to be lower than the collector's number anyway.You would pay north of 1,500 for a rewrapped vintage Rogers kit? ( based on a nice original at 2,000 +)
As a collector of vintage drums I would never buy a re wrap. It has very little value outside of its parts.
If I'm buying a vintage drum I'm buying its story as well as its sound. I'm also buying for resale somewhere down the road, could be at the end of the road neverthe less an original will always bring good money. A rewrap not so much.
How much would the same set go for if the wrap was original?All depends on original condition. You decide.
Top picture - original wrap drums - 18/14/12 - $300
Second picture - rewrapped and missing parts installed - $2000 for the 3 drums (no snare)
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That was not an option in my case. . . LOL Thinking it would be close to what I received unless it was in almost NOS condition.How much would the same set go for if the wrap was original?
I agree and think along the same lines are you do, Lossforgain ...and others that chime in on this topic for that matter....I get what you're saying, and to some extent I agree. But I would probably not spend 2k+ on an original Rogers set -- I tend to only pick up vintage drums when they are priced really well. I don't fancy myself a collector, just an appreciator of these drums. That said, if a set with damaged wrap had been professionally rewrapped in something that really looked stunning to me (green glitter, perhaps) and had sizes I really like (20/12/14/matching snare) then I could possibly be attracted to that set at $1500. I'm sure that someone could respond using my own previous words about the desirability factors, since a 14" Holiday floor tom and Rogers drums in green glitter are pretty rare, making $1500 more of a deal compared to the same set with a 16 in gloss black. But that's the silliness of collectability in my mind -- the exact same drum with a different layer of plastic on top is worth a vastly different amount to the collector. It's really not, to me -- but my number is going to be lower than the collector's number anyway.
I can't agree that the rewrapped drum is only worth its parts -- a green (or black) Rogers 20/12/14 with shells in nice shape is going to sound phenomenal. I want to play and enjoy that set! I have occasionally bought something to flip, but it's not primarily or usually my motivation. Often when I do that I end up liking the piece too much to let it go, and have several things like that in my stable. When I buy, I almost always buy things I like, for a price low enough that I'm not stuck with it if I don't. Even if I break even but I got to try something new or enjoy playing it for awhile, that's fine with me.