i remember a few years back playing those in a church service.... they have the wooden handles on them also. I remember they are zildjian cymbals and looked darker brownish color,not like bright brass.... I ordered a set from sweetwater the other day 10" splash planet z.... I put the handles on them and wow they are very light and not thick at all. I can even bend them with my hand and it seems if i beat them hard they just might bend for sure.... I would love if someone knows what type they use? or maybe those cymbals i played are older ones? also the two i have, i put them both together and put the handle on them and it seems just the right weight and everything.. do you think they are having 4 cymbals and putting them together two each? would the sound still be there? any help would be greatly appreciated..