Is The 22/16/13 Configuration Too Big?

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not too small, i love those sizes. but wish i had a roadie
 
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I keep vacillating between 12 and 13 (w/16/22). Been having trouble tuning the 13 just right. I know...my fault.
 

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Also, keep in mind that after months of looking at and playing smaller drums, your 13/16/22 LOOKS huge, but, if you looked at and played only that kit for eight months, it would look and feel "normal."
This.

I used to have both a 22/12/16 and a 16/10/13 set up in my drum room simultaneously. The 22 felt absurdly huge whenever I played it immediately after the 16. Now, on the other hand, I play mostly on a 24” bass and anything smaller feels tiny.

Don’t get me wrong, though, my favorite bass drum sizes are 18 and 20, so I’m all for swapping for a more compact kit, if that’s what you like.
 

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I usually play 12,14,18 occasionally a 20” bass. But earlier in the summer I had a week long shiw gig and used a 13,16,22 that worked perfectly for the mixed bag of music (Rock, pop, latin, show classical etc.) On the last night of the gig I had a jazz hit afterward and didnt want to leave drums in the car for either gig so I used the larger drums, tuned up, for the jazz gig. They sounded great. I can understand the set up issues. I did use a snare stand for the 13. But the sizes worked great for the music. The tuning just changed. I haven’t used those larger drums since then but maybe I will tomorrow since I have an outdoor dance gig playing a variety of music.
 

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I’m good with those sizes. But, I’m pretty good about being versatile. Current set is 10, 14, 20. It handles things pretty well for me too. Remember, as I’m sure you’ve been told,It’s not the drums, it’s the player.
 

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I have a 24/13/16. I’m 5’ 10” and have no problem positioning the 13 on a snare stand within easy reach.
 

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My main reason for not using a 13” is they are usually 9
I am trying to get myself use to a 20/14/12 (or 20/16/14/12) setup after years of playing a 22/16/12 simply for a reduction in space/weight and better tom positioning. Personally I hate 13" toms, mostly due to the extra inch needed for positioning. Having said that, while the 20" kick gives a good punch, I really miss the low end of the 22" bass, especially in unmiced situations. The toms are the same for me, so that's a wash.

Unless you are playing hard bop or something, I think the 22/16/13 set up is fine.
if you are comfortable playing this way, don’t port the head on the 20” I read that the port has an affect on bottom end. On my 20” I have a full head with 3 small holes on each side to let air release. It’s got a good punch and a good bottom end.
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Doesn't seem too big at all to me. More like medium/average sized. I've found that I like my drums on the larger side though. My current kit is 13/14/16/18/24 all standard depths, and a 14×6.5" snare. The 13" and 14" toms are both mounted on the 24" bass drum, and at 5' 10" I have no problems with positioning. Compared to my last kit which was 10/12/14/16/22 I just much prefer the sound, feel, and look of the bigger drums!
 

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My main reason for not using a 13” is they are usually 9

if you are comfortable playing this way, don’t port the head on the 20” I read that the port has an affect on bottom end. On my 20” I have a full head with 3 small holes on each side to let air release. It’s got a good punch and a good bottom end. View attachment 406816
Thank you for the suggestion. I’ll give it a shot, and that’s a beauty of a drum set.
 

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I have a 24/13/16. I’m 5’ 10” and have no problem positioning the 13 on a snare stand within easy reach.
Fair enough. I tend to like my drums lower and my body slightly elevated above the drums. That means the toms need to be a bit lower than I can get with a 13” drum. By the way, I’m the same height as you.
 

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I have two sets in the 13-16-22 configuration (I think you are talking Ludwigs, right?) but do not gig them. I love the size of the kit.
However, I am building a 20-12-14 set which I think will be easier to gig for quick setup and transportation.
Ludwig super classic or Vintage Premier kits from 70’s which are mostly in 22/16/13 international sizes.
 

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I'm wondering why you think 16/13/10 is going to be faster to setup than 18/14/12. Or 22/16/13.
Oh it is definitely easier compared to a 22/16/13. You can probably carry the whole drum set with your hands with 16/13/10, use of space, setup time is less..trust me I have had both configurations. I sold the little kit years ago and now I want another one.
 

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Joe Morello is one of my heroes and he played a big kit unlike so many other jazz drummers at the time who played 18” bass but his kit doesn't look huge when he plays it, maybe he was a relatively big guy. In some images his bass drum looks 20”, maybe it was sometimes.
I don’t think the problem is the 22”, it’s the 13x9 tom. I think if I had the 22/16/12 instead I wouldn’t have started this thread. 13x9 is kind of big.
I also agree with one of the members that probably it looks huge to me because I have been watching drummers who play smaller kits and I also play and look at smaller kits all the time that’s why it looks big to me. When this one was my only kit I didn’t think it was huge.
 

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It's all subjective & depending on what style of music you play & what sound you want to achieve :) I go through phases of using 12/16/22, 13/16/22, 10/12/14/22, 12/13/16/22, 10/12/13/16/22, depending on my mood :)
 

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If ergonomics are the issue for you, then just get what you need to be comfortable. I've used a 12/14/20 kit for thousands of wildly diverse gigs and never had any complaints. Certainly no crime in having a smaller kit. Then again, I also play larger sized drums and have found that there are plenty of set up options that make me comfortable. I often find it easier to get comfy with a 13 on a snare stand rather than on a BD mount, but that's me.

As for carrying it: When you think about it, the only transport difference between a 10/13/16 and a 13/16/22 is that you're carrying a 10 in the first set and a 22 in the second-- the other two drums are the same. That said, if your 13/16/22 is a Gretsch and it's got die cast hoops and mufflers and you're planning to switch to, say, a Breakbeats kit, that's a lot of weight savings.

Good luck, though!
 

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I'm just curious if you've considered that it's the music that you play mostly that causes you to gravitate towards the smaller set ups ? And when you " get the urge" to play the vintage kit, how long do you leave it set up ? I've had kits from 24" kick down to 18" I'm just a hair under 6 ft tall and the 24 took some getting used to. The Tom's for that kit were Tama hyperdrive shorter depths so that helped. I guess what I'm saying I leave it set up, play it more and maybe you won't find it so huge to play. They're the quintisential classic sizes for a 3 pc rock kit.
 

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