Just for kicks- Sonically matching a 4x14 Ludwig Downbeat snare in 2020

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How would you do it ? I'd be curious..

Is this size in the catalog with a Legacy shell ? Special order ? Who has a shell then that would work ? Parts I'm assuming you could find
 
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Bernie Stone could probably make you the correct 3 ply shell with rings. You'd want either mahogany/poplar/mahogany or mahogany/poplar/maple to be period correct. The lugs might be tricky to source.
 
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Bernie Stone could probably make you the correct 3 ply shell with rings. You'd want either mahogany/poplar/mahogany or mahogany/poplar/maple to be period correct. The lugs might be tricky to source.
Thanks. I’d forgotten about him. I could use any piccolo lug. The side by side is notorious for slipping.

the price on the originals is just so high now. Maybe with the coming depression tho they’ll come down with everything else
 

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Just using any lugs wouldn't be a problem. To me "replicate" indicated a desire to make drum that looked just like the original. I imagine you could easily get Ludwigs current piccolo lug from someplace like Drums on sale.com

 
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Just using any lugs wouldn't be a problem. To me "replicate" indicated a desire to make drum that looked just like the original. I imagine you could easily get Ludwigs current piccolo lug from someplace like Drums on sale.com

Ugggh, that's one ugly lug :) Maybe go for the Gretsch ?
Sorry.. I should edit the post for clarity. It's more the sound I'm after. Do you think there's a current drum comercially available that captures that ?
 

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I have a 10x14 shell.....I sure wish I had a table saw to rip 2" off each side then glue them together.....I get all sorts of ideas.....

If you have the tools, I'd find a shell and go for it.
 

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I'm not a huge fan of tube lugs but this would be one instance when I'd lean towards them as the best choice.
 

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That would be nice. There's a sound I'm after that I don't want to spend 800 dollars on. 600/650 maybe. But not 800.
unless it's a crazy cool/rare finish i consider a nice downbeat like mine worth about $650.
 

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I'm not a huge fan of tube lugs but this would be one instance when I'd lean towards them as the best choice.

I'm with Kevin on this one. The original lugs were so damn cool and unless that could be replicated or found, I would probably opt for a tube lug. Guess I would have to see a legacy all done up with the small keystone badge and Ludwig's current lugs to get an idea but nothing comes close to the original. That red sparkle WFL looks awesome!
 

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It's available in the Ludwig Outfitter. Not sure about the lug shape, but otherwise. ;-)
 

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It's available in the Ludwig Outfitter. Not sure about the lug shape, but otherwise. ;-)
Pretty sure it would have those lugs he doesn't like. Tube lugs might also be an option though.
 

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