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That mic should NOT be dead center on/in any bass drum. It should be offset, never pointing at the beater. Think: Simon Phillips bass drum mic placement. You can cut/shorten the Kelly Shu Bungie cables easily to accommodate this and set it and forget it.

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I am thinking about getting a Shu, but the finality of cord lengths has always bothered me. With some mics or setups position might matter less than with others?
I would experiment more before committing to a position. Was surprised how close to the impact point you can get with some mics and still get a good sound. Clicky yes, but with an inside mic that‘s often what you want.
 

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I have the Kelly SHU installed in eight of my kits, all with Beta 52s. I couldn't be happier with my live bass drum sound.
I personally haven’t tried a Beta 52 on a Shu. One of mine does have an SM-91 on a Shu and it’s brilliant. I do have a Beta 52 in another on a May Monorail and it’s also brilliant.
 

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That mic should NOT be dead center on/in any bass drum. It should be offset, never pointing at the beater. Think: Simon Phillips bass drum mic placement. You can cut/shorten the Kelly Shu Bungie cables easily to accommodate this and set it and forget it.

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Is there a reason for this? I have been using a Kelly Shu for years in my bass drum and it has been nothing short of incredible. I used a D-112 for years and currently there is a Shure PG52 in there that works great. The placement of the Shu puts it pretty much dead center and it's never been an issue. I only took the D-112 out so I can use it for recording but I have been quite impressed with the PG52.
 

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After many years of using the MAY kick mount I changed up to the SHU. I have them in my live kits. I was using a D6, but changed it out last tour for a Beta 52. The D6 kept falling off the clip in transportation. I prefer the SHU to the MAY mount as with the contact vibration of playing the kick, and transportation on tours the MAY mount would occasionally loosen up and need to be re-set. The SHU doesn't have that problem.
That's exactly the problem I have with the D6 in the Shu. The mic clips for these things don't hold it very well. Might be time for a different mic.
I also use a May Vent connector. Makes things easier.
 

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That mic should NOT be dead center on/in any bass drum. It should be offset, never pointing at the beater. Think: Simon Phillips bass drum mic placement. You can cut/shorten the Kelly Shu Bungie cables easily to accommodate this and set it and forget it.

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I mean, that's one possible way of doing it.

I don't like that sound. For most of my "inside" kick mics, I vastly prefer the sound of the drum mic dead center, pointed at the beater.

To say it should "NOT" be there is silly.
 

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Is there a reason for this? I have been using a Kelly Shu for years in my bass drum and it has been nothing short of incredible. I used a D-112 for years and currently there is a Shure PG52 in there that works great. The placement of the Shu puts it pretty much dead center and it's never been an issue. I only took the D-112 out so I can use it for recording but I have been quite impressed with the PG52.
When you have it pointed directly at the beater, it's like being in a vacuum sonically. You will get more of everything you want sonically in a bass drum sound offset, still pointing at the head, but not directly at the beater. I followed Simon Phillips logic and it has worked for me for over 30 years. No one's drums sound better than Simon's drums, IMHO. Try it for yourself. See what you think.
 

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When you have it pointed directly at the beater, it's like being in a vacuum sonically. You will get more of everything you want sonically in a bass drum sound offset, still pointing at the head, but not directly at the beater. I followed Simon Phillips logic and it has worked for me for over 30 years. No one's drums sound better than Simon's drums, IMHO. Try it for yourself. See what you think.
I've tried it, and I completely disagree.

Simon's drums sound great, but they're a sound that doesn't work well in every musical situation. In the same way that Bonham's drum sound doesn't work in many musical situations.
 

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I’ve got mine as far off center as I can get it , and I plan to turn the mic a few degrees towards the shell as well ….

I read it somewhere that seemed smart …
 

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Mics, and inputs/preamps, sometimes overload with that much sound pressure. I used to have both mics and mixers that only allowed for off-center placement. Using other euqipment since I found that with enough headroom, very mic'ing lose to the beater can work fine.
 

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This is what I came here to find.
Sweet!
Just installed one in my gigging kit and eager to hear the results next week at the gig.
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Everyone here using those Shues
and Robocops, awesome setups!
My mind is racing with ideas
cos right now I have neither of
those two things.

I have a CAD D88 kick mic which
I use at band rehearsal.
But for recording, and live shows,
The "robocop" (Beta52a) and the
Kelly Shu are on my Want list
for this year.

LOL... "Robocop" is my nickname for
the Beta52 cos it looks like
Robocop's helmet.
 

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I have a D6 mounted in the center, but aimed to the side where the head meets the shell. Sounds pretty good to me.
 

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Would you say this is a good price?
I can't remember what I paid for mine, but it seems like it's available most everywhere for that price.
 

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Would you say this is a good price?
I paid $52 at a local drum shop for mine. It was new in the box and in regular stock.
 

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This can make a Shu permanent and easy!
 

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This is the mic mount I currently have,
it's made by Gibraltar...

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...I haven't used it yet, but I might use this
inside my floor tom.
For my kick drum I'll go with a Shu and
the XLR rigging.
 


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