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Ludwig’ers..., Wha?

Mr B

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Just got this at a garage sale for $20...

What the hell is it?

Definitely has original wrap, I can clearly see it into the Ludwig style scarf joint.

It has nickel plated lugs and part of a chrome throw.

That’s not remains of white paint inside, but residue from the putty used to fill the center lug holes.

There is no badge, no vent.

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Also came with a older Rims mount and a Remo PTS Ambassador.

This = a floor tom for my Junkpile suitcase kit! Yea! :idea1:

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maybe a cutdown marcher with the rerings added back in?

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kirk

maybe a cutdown marcher with the rerings added back in?

mike

Sounds about as plausible as anything I can think of. Does it have snare beds?

You've got a mystery there Kirk (BTW: Galena gig is Oct 15th)

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kirk

maybe a cutdown marcher with the rerings added back in?

mike

Sounds about as plausible as anything I can think of. Does it have snare beds?

You've got a mystery there Kirk (BTW: Galena gig is Oct 15th)

Kevin

Yep, nicely done ones too.

Been digging through my spare parts and I’m only a few t-rods away from setting it up. I’ll pick some tomorrow and see how it sounds.

Oct is coming up fast!

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5.25 X 14.

I’m thinking Mike is right about being a chopped marcher. The original bottom re-ring would of been a good template for the beds.

All in all it’s nicely done, I’m looking forward to trying it!

But wondering what it will feel like without a vent...?

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some of the clues just pointed in that direction. with the wrap in the scarf joint, we knew it was not a rewrap. the marching snare had the badge (vent) up high on the drum. they might have used one of the original lug holes on the bottom to mount the new lugs which would explain the filling of the one. at that price, you just cant go wrong!

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If the throw is original they probably left the bottom alone (and the factory cut beds) and chopped the top. Someone wanted their 10x14 to be a Jazz festival instead.

Some sanding, some white paint on the inside, add a vent and badge, the average person probably would never know :icon_smile:
 

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The bottom holes and the filled holes look like they might be the right spacing for large classic lugs that were used on some marchers. To me, it looks like the re-rings are taller and not the same contour as usual Ludwig fare. Either that or it's the angle of the picture. The hardware alone is worth more than $20 bucks so it's a good score on a neat project.
 

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Finished putting it together and give it a test drive...

Even with old snare wires, old heads, and no vent it sounds pretty darn good!

I guess I could paint the interior and add proper hoops, a vintage throw & badge- But that’s a project for another day, I like just fine now.

Gig worthy!

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The vent...or lack of....

Depends on how you play it. A vent hole isn't really needed for lighter playing, but it can choke out the sound without one if you really hit it harder. That's sort of the very, very, non-scientific experimenting I did on a few snares I made years ago. I still have one with no vent and like it for lighter stuff.

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i just went and checked some of my 60's ludwig drums. if youre looking at your last pic, i'd say either one or two panels back over to the left, looking straight on at the pic. my 64 jazz festival has it two panels over from the strainer.

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Two panels from the throw clockwise viewing from the top... :occasion5:

I reckon the small brass keystone badge would be the most fitting?

Thanks!

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If you get a repro keystone without a serial then it should go on the panel immediately to the left of the throw which is where Ludwig was putting them in the early 60's. At some point (mid 60's approx) they moved it over one panel further to the left. Either is correct depending on what era you want to represent.

Way cool drum for $20 Kirk :occasion5:
 


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