Ludwig Black Beauty question (with a dent)

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Hey guys!

So finally I saved up enough to buy my first good snare. I was checking on Supras and BBs and I have found this BB (14x6.5) from a jazz drummer friend who recently got full endorsement with Gretsch so he's selling his Ludwigs.

He gave me a good price for a BB (550 euro), the only thing that concerns me is that the snare has a big bent on it. He told me that it didn't change the sound in a bad way at all and that I'm welcomed to check it myself (which I will do when I go to my hometown to get it)

But I wanted to ask the experts here. What do you guys think? Do you think I shouldn't buy it or do you think it's not much of a problem? (aesthetically I don't have any issue with it, all I'm concerned is the sound)

Here are the photos of the snare, I appreciate any answers, thank you already!!

And here's a video of it:


P.S. there are small mods in the snare, like the hoops(die cast) and the wire are black and the throw-off has been replaced with a p-86.
 

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Hey! Thanks for the replies.

Unfortunately in Europe, second hand BB's start from a price range of 700 euro and more. Especially 6.5'' ones are more than 800 euro.

Never seen one under 650 so far even tho I've been checking for a long time.

What I could do is that I could instead go for a second hand Supra, then I could even save some of that money. :scratch:
 

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If it sounds good it wouldn’t put me off it if its a good deal where you are. I would ask to take the top hoop of and check that another head will seat easily.
 

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I would try to negotiate down a bit (like 450-500), then get it repaired. A good coppersmith can do that easily. In a worst case scenario, you're left with damaged nickel coating only. (which is also within repair). Btw. it seems to have die-cast rims too!
 

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Thanks everyone for your replies. I decided to pass on that like many of you suggested.

I guess I'll keep looking :)
 

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Once all hardware is removed and the outside of shell is rested on a surface, a carefully placed strike or three with a plastic dead blow hammer should remove most of that dent.



 
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Once all hardware is removed and the outside of shell is rested on a surface, a carefully placed strike or three with a plastic dead blow hammer should remove most of that dent.
The challenge with a Ludwig shell, unlike the one you show here, is the center bead. I have hammered out a few, but it’s a time consuming and slow-moving process to get it right.

I have posted this one before, it was dropped on the butt end pretty badly and I would say I got out about 90-95% of the damage.

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That dent should be able to come out with the use of a rubber mallet...I have 4 different sizes of them and using a towel as a cushion between the mallet and the inside of the shell. It can be done with patience and attention.
 

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Brass Instrument repair shops would also use a marble rolled back and forth in various directions with pressure over the area to remove dents . It is extremely time consuming but it will get out all of the dent.
 

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Understood.
In the video it looked like the dent was above the bead
 


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