Ludwig early (first?) Hercules snare stand

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A buddy of mine found this nifty puppy with angle adjustment via one basket arm and threaded basket clamp adjustment right on tube. I see it in the 1964 catalog as "new" but the next available catalog on drumarchive is '67 and it's way gone. Anyone know how long they offered it?
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interesting Hercules word was used back then. How about some better pictures
 

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My first vintage kit...my March 65 SBP Hollywood kit came with a Hercules (1364-1) that intrigued me early on. I later found a different 60's version of the same and started doing some digging.

The 1364 is first shown in the '63 Supplemental catalog in a Dance or Concert model. The upper portion of this stand is also used on the 18" Gold Coast Cocktail bass drum to hold the snare drum on the bass drum using a Hollywood style dual tom mount on the bass drum.

The '65 Ludwig Drummer Vol.5 No. 1 Spring '65 issues shows the 1364-1. It is also a Hercules stand and has a different tilt portion for the basket itself. I have both of these stands in my collection. The '67 catalog shows a 1364-3 and 1364-4. Both are various heights, Concert and Dance. They look like the 1364-1 but are listed as Atlas stands at this point. Wonder if the 1364-2 ever made it into production??

Mike
 

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My first vintage kit...my March 65 SBP Hollywood kit came with a Hercules (1364-1) that intrigued me early on. I later found a different 60's version of the same and started doing some digging.

The 1364 is first shown in the '63 Supplemental catalog in a Dance or Concert model. The upper portion of this stand is also used on the 18" Gold Coast Cocktail bass drum to hold the snare drum on the bass drum using a Hollywood style dual tom mount on the bass drum.

The '65 Ludwig Drummer Vol.5 No. 1 Spring '65 issues shows the 1364-1. It is also a Hercules stand and has a different tilt portion for the basket itself. I have both of these stands in my collection. The '67 catalog shows a 1364-3 and 1364-4. Both are various heights, Concert and Dance. They look like the 1364-1 but are listed as Atlas stands at this point. Wonder if the 1364-2 ever made it into production??

Mike
Thanks Mike! That sounds to me like it had a lifespan of maybe 1.5 ish years. The separate tilt section would have rendered the tilt arm on a basket (1364) obsolete. Cool to see the timeline of innovation!
 

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Ludwig recycled the Hercules name when they went to heavier tubing on the Atlas stands around 1979. Now they recycled the Atlas name again for their newer hardware. Maybe a new Hercules will replace those sometime down the road.
 


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